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(Drudge) SHOCK POLL: SC Primary: Cain 26%, Romney 25%, Perry 15%
ARG ^ | 10-10-11 | American Research Group

Posted on 10/11/2011 7:37:00 AM PDT by tcrlaf

Drudge links to the ARG Polling Press Release:

Herman Cain leads the South Carolina Republican presidential primary with 26%. Cain is followed closely by Mitt Romney at 25%. Rick Perry is third at 15%.

In July, Romney was leading with 25%, followed by Sarah Palin at 16%, Michele Bachmann at 13%, and Herman Cain at 10%.

Among likely primary voters considering themselves to be Republicans, Cain and Romney are tied at 27% each, followed by Perry at 15%.

Among Tea Party supporters, Cain leads with 35%, followed by Perry at 16% and Romney at 15%.

Among those saying they are not Tea Party supporters or are undecided about the Tea Party, Romney leads with 33%, followed by Cain at 19%, Perry at 14%, and Ron Paul at 10%.

Details from the survey of 600 likely Republican primary voters conducted October 5-10 can be found here.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; hermancain; mittromney; poll; primary; rickperry; ronpaul; sc2012; southcarolina
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To: MNJohnnie

I haven’t chosen a candidate yet. With a field this bad, it takes time to sort it out.


121 posted on 10/11/2011 9:23:42 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: normy
Why? If we support such a piece of trash Rino as Perry why do you think we would back Cain and not Romney?

You make a solid point.

I don't expect Establishment Republicans to support Cain. Only conservatives are supposed to support the nominee if it's someone like McCain or Romney. Establishment Republicans will work to tear down Conservative candidates like Cain, not vote for them in the general election, or vote to keep Obama in office.

122 posted on 10/11/2011 9:23:56 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Reagan Man
Seems you don't like getting your own posting style fed back to you.

You might want to consider that next time you feel the urge to post one of your usual bile laced, emotional rants about Cain.

123 posted on 10/11/2011 9:25:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Huck
Another example of your Cult of Personality campaign follower behavior.

You respond in under 3 minutes to a fact based post with a per-programed emotion based response devoid of any rational content.

Want to see the Cult of Personality followers around here, look in a mirror

124 posted on 10/11/2011 9:35:05 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Oh, wow, did Cain endorse Romney for the 2012 campaign?


125 posted on 10/11/2011 9:35:34 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Amnesty (ie: Perry/Rubio) will be the final death blow to the United States of America.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
>>>>>>Cain... has made more campaign promises and proposals than Perry to date.

That is the money line. Thanks for lending credence to my post. Promises and proposals is ALL Cain has. Perry has governed a large state, both in size and population and been elected 3 times. Perry has had a successful executive governing record in Texas and promoted a solid conservative political record. And what has Cain done in the last 11 years in politics? He lost one Senate election at the primary level. That's it!

>>>>>>If Palin followers are turning to Cain more than to Perry, it’s because Cain is matching up better with Palin.

Thanks for making my point again. But Palin does have more political and executive experience then Cain does. But the cult of personality is alive in both of them.

126 posted on 10/11/2011 9:38:02 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Outlaw Woman

Herman Cain attacks Mitt Romney over his religion.
http://www.bloodyshrubbery.com/2011/07/news-snap-herman-cain-attacks-mitt.html

Herman is raising cain on Romney presumably not being electable.
http://wakeupblackamerica.blogspot.com/2011/07/herman-is-raising-cain-on-romney.html

Mr. Cain attacks fellow GOP candidate Mitt Romney for raising over $10 million in one day in May.
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/13/7074855-herman-cain-is-so-over-that-money-thing

Herman Cain turns on Romney……
http://www.politicaldog101.com/?p=32349

Cain: Romney ‘can’t win’ because he has not done ‘a good job of explaining his religion’
http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/D/4/3/cain_romney_cant_win_because_he_has_not_done_a_good_job_of_explaining_his_religion/

Just google it.


127 posted on 10/11/2011 9:47:33 AM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Reagan Man

Cain has had a fruitful career in the private sector and has been very successful in a variety of positions. I have no doubt he could manage this nation well and likely lead us out of this economic nightmare.
Perry is a career politician, plain and simple. I am through with establishment/career politicians — epecially republicans ones! They are way too quick to cave in the name of bi-partisanship. So sick of republican politicians bowing to the god of political correctness.


128 posted on 10/11/2011 9:48:17 AM PDT by dubyagee ("I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.")
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To: FryingPan101
Why should Perry be singled out when most illegals live in California, New York, Florida, etc? We do have our share and a lot of them find refuge with families here legitimately.

It seems odd, the most lefty, pro-open border comments come from people in Texas, just like you.

Perry will never be President...After 8 years of Bush, Americans had a belly full of pro open border politicians.

129 posted on 10/11/2011 9:50:15 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Marie

Well...judging by the dates it now appears that Cain is a flip-flopper. Hmmmm another detail to consider.


130 posted on 10/11/2011 9:52:18 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (HANK for President! 2012)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; perfect_rovian_storm; Colofornian

Romney won’t pick Cain as his VP, for a myraid of reasons, the only benefit it would have is so Mitt could say he isn’t ‘racist’ when the media starts pointing out all the racist comments and history of the LDS church.

However, Mitt would lose some LDS support because there are a lot of older LDS who still believe blacks have the curse of Cain (no pun intended).


131 posted on 10/11/2011 9:59:22 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: dubyagee
Yes, "Cain has had a fruitful career in the private sector". I don't see how that translates to governing. Not just governing, but governing as potus? I don't know of any successful businessman who has made a big splash in politics. Do you?

The last man to get elected potus without a prior elected governing or legislative voting record, was Eisenhower. And Ike was a General and Supreme Allied Commander in WWII, Chief of Staff of the Army, NATO Commander, Military Governor of U.S. Occupation Zone and President of Columbia University.

I'm not fond of lifetime politicians either, but that is no reason to reject them and choose a neophyte. And if you think Perry is a PC poltiico, you obviosuly don't know Perry.

132 posted on 10/11/2011 10:00:55 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Outlaw Woman

And apparently about half of all FReepers are flip-floppers as well.

Many FReepers chose Romney over McCain in ‘08. Cain was aligned with the conservative base on that one.


133 posted on 10/11/2011 10:01:16 AM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

There’s less than 3 months to the first Primary, but it’s way to early to give up on Rick Perry.

Regarding your tag: “You don’t have a heart” is easily topped by Cain’s repetitive accusation that Governor Perry and his family are “insensitive.” Nearly 48 hours later, he told Sean Hannity on Monday October 3,

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1198408672001/this-is-herman-cain/

that he still wasn’t sure about the facts. And, in fact, he did get the year wrong.

“I’ve heard, because I haven’t researched it. - You know, more important things to do. because I haven’t had time - Is that in 1981, they painted over the sign. What happened from 1960-1981?”

The Governor’s dad didn’t join the lease until 1983 - so 1960-1981 is irrelevant.

The Governor joined the lease later. The family never had full control of the land at all.

A hunting lease is just that, a lease. Normally a group of people go in together to rent the right to hunt on a piece of land for a season. There’s usually a limit to the number of hunters allowed, so when one person drops out, another can be added and friends and families tend to join others in their leases as openings come available.


134 posted on 10/11/2011 10:14:30 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: dragnet2

“It seems odd, the most lefty, pro-open border comments come from people in Texas, just like you.”

It’s not odd. For what it’s worth, I’m as far from open borders as you can get. I come from a long line of military and I respect law and order. National immigration policy has failed and left our states vulnerable. Most states can’t afford what it would take. For God’s sake, they come up thru the sewers, thru deserts with heats that kill, stuffed in vans and trucks, over hills and mountains. It’s not like they arrive at the airport with college admissions papers. They are ILLEGALS. They are in every state. They are every nationality...with Arab growing by leaps and bounds. ICE has been rendered impotent.. National security has let us down and our state governors handle it as well as they can.


135 posted on 10/11/2011 10:15:32 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Game over? Christie is endorsing Romney.)
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To: reaganaut; P-Marlowe
Romney won’t pick Cain as his VP, for a myraid of reasons, the only benefit it would have is so Mitt could say he isn’t ‘racist’ when the media starts pointing out all the racist comments and history of the LDS church. However, Mitt would lose some LDS support because there are a lot of older LDS who still believe blacks have the curse of Cain (no pun intended).

Hey, if Romney won the nomination; picked Cain as his vp; assigned Lds mishies night & day to "convert" Herbert. Perhaps it would fulfill the Mormon prophesied hopes: Somebody's skin color changing before our very eyes!

After all, there's at least 5 Book of Mormon verses which discuss how the "skin of blackness" is a "cursing" based upon their "iniquity" (2 Nephi 5:21; Alma 3:6; Jacob 3:5) and how when the curse would be removed, they would again become "white" (3 Nephi 2:15), which the Book of Mormon says is a "delightsome" color (2 Nephi 5:21; cf. older version of 2 Nephi 30:6):

Mitt Romney adheres to these verses...which the MSM will find a lot more to its liking to unearth at the proper time. (It certainly will trump a rock on somebody's hunting ground!)

Here's two of those verses from the Book of Mormon: * "And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceeding fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them." (2 Nephi 5:21)

* "...many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and delightsome people." (2 Nephi 30:6, pre-1981 versions...changed from unknown reasons in 1981 to "fair and delightsome")

136 posted on 10/11/2011 10:17:10 AM PDT by Colofornian (Anyone who can be duped by Joseph Smith can be duped by anyone.)
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To: Reagan Man

He is beating people with your vaulted experience organizations, people with 4X the money and you still don’t get it or you just don’t want to get it. Rick and Mitt are career politicians and where has that gotten us?

The history of the United States is FULL of cases where men have stepped in and taken the reins of situations that they where not trained for nor sought and yet they did well. If anything history teaches us that this is clearly an American trait one of the many that makes this country exceptional.


137 posted on 10/11/2011 10:22:52 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: tcrlaf
The American Spring is here

Be sure to visit:
Artists Supporting the Presidential Campaign of Herman Cain. Artists interested in joining please contact us...
138 posted on 10/11/2011 10:24:02 AM PDT by Fred (But we will never survive unless we get a little crazy)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

“I doubt we’ll be seeing Cain speaking at La Raza events any time soon”

I think every politician will appear before any group regardless of their persuasion. Why would he not want to hear what a huge voting block has to say when they’re supposedly representing millions of Americans even though he already knows what they’ll say? You must have personal, inner circle knowledge of Cain’s intentions.


139 posted on 10/11/2011 10:31:24 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Game over? Christie is endorsing Romney.)
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To: MNJohnnie

This post is all you need to know about where Huck is coming from:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2791095/posts?page=46#39


140 posted on 10/11/2011 10:42:33 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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