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Herman Cain can help Mitt Romney win the GOP nod. Really.
Washington Post ^ | Oct 5, 2011 | Rachel Weiner

Posted on 10/05/2011 6:56:06 PM PDT by Clairity

While Cain is likely to hit a ceiling in the near future, he's effectively dug into Perry's base and helped expose the frontrunner's weakness. Fracturing the anti-Romney vote has made it all the easier for Romney to win.

With New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie out of the race, no one is competing with Romney for moderate Republicans.

Cain himself might not be too upset with that outcome. While he's been a frequent critic of Romney on the trail, he endorsed the tenuous front-runner in 2008.

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To: rogue yam

Cain is Ceiling Unlimited. He will get GOP support, independents AND Democrats who don’t like their party given to the Socialists. That’s why the Times ran this tripe. They desperately want to tie Cain somehow to the RINO. They’re terrified of the Hermanator.


61 posted on 10/05/2011 7:41:43 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: TheDailyChange
Consider his opposition and you will get the Big Picture real quick!

After that Joe Miller / Lisa Murkowski deal I don't trust them not to rig the nomination, or stab him in the back afterward if he is nominated.

62 posted on 10/05/2011 7:44:04 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Clairity
Supporting Cain = Supporting Romney. Is that what conservatives really want to do?

Sounds like you are desperately trying to scare people into supporting your boy Perry.

Guess what? That tactic didn't work for the Ron Paul crowd and it's not going to work for the Rick Perry crowd. It's a very pathetic defense of Perry. Very pathetic.
63 posted on 10/05/2011 7:45:09 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: ken21
I will never vote for romney and anyone that tries to paint me as electing anyone other than who I vote for... can kiss my arse.

LLS

64 posted on 10/05/2011 7:50:11 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: Dagnabitt; Clairity
Perry will be easily painted by the media as an inarticulate idiot, since he is in fact, an inarticulate idiot.

The media tried that with Reagan. It didn't work. All Perry has to do is perform reasonably well at these "gotcha" panels. I realize he's hated because of the in state tuition policy. However, even for the toughest on immigration, he stacks up as a good conservative on every issue.

65 posted on 10/05/2011 7:50:29 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: SuzyQue
Perhaps Supporting Cain = Supporting Cain. Just a thought...

You need to have that post removed by a mod, because you're going to spoil our secret. People aren't supposed to know that supporting Cain means you support Cain!
66 posted on 10/05/2011 7:50:54 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Kartographer

“Anyone who doesn’t know Herman Cain is in this to win is either a blind or a just doesn’t care for Cain.”

Damn right! He has said he doesn’t need to run for President, he stated he is doing it because he see’s the need for a real conservative candidate. I don’t see him going for a VP position.


67 posted on 10/05/2011 7:51:26 PM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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To: Clairity

Romney can get used to the idea of supporting Herman Cain.

Dittos for Perry and the rest of the GOP Establishment Elites.


68 posted on 10/05/2011 7:55:27 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Clairity
While he's been a frequent critic of Romney on the trail, he endorsed the tenuous front-runner in 2008.

Cain's just another flip flop. The blind don't want to see it because they like what he says. That the mo of a politician - do whatever but tickle the ears. Even though he works like barry, work a bit needs time off - that doesn't matter either. I can see why the BOD asked him to resign. He's, also, prime for a beer summit.
69 posted on 10/05/2011 7:56:07 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: JennysCool

Cain flies CAVU... Ceiling and visibility unlimited.

LLS


70 posted on 10/05/2011 7:56:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: Clairity; shield; RitaOK; TexasFreeper2009
It's amazing that folks can't admit the TRUTH: Cain, who in case anyone forgot ENDORSED ROMNEY IN 2008.

You know Milt, that rock-ribbed conservative? The one that created the blueprint for ObamaCare - RomneyCare.

RomneyCare: the “healthcare” plan that amongst many things calls for $50 ABORTIONS and FINES PEOPLE THAT CANNOT AFFORD HEALTHCARE. $50 ABORTIONS!!! Yes, it's in there!

Does that make sense - fining a person that doesn't have funds to begin with? AND ROMNEY'S AN ECONOMIC SAGE??? HE'S GOING TO FIX THE ECONOMY??? THINK ABOUT IT!!!

Just ignore the fact that Cain endorsed Romney AFTER he unleashed ROMNEYCARE on MA. Living in MA, I know the RomneyCare NIGHTMARE firsthand.

And spare me the “Perry backed Rudy” shtick. Rudy never mandated $50 abortions.

Oh yeah, and Mitty's going to secure the borders...JUST AS SOON AS HE STOPS HAVING THEM CUT THE GRASS AT HIS MANSION!!!

71 posted on 10/05/2011 7:57:47 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Note to Cainiacs: The Herminator endorsed Romney in 2008.)
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To: Clairity

Oh Horsecrap!

Right now there are two sides, Romney and everyone else. Now that Sarah has finally made it clear she is not running, the lion’s share of those (like me) who were just waiting for her decision are going to come down firmly in Cain’s corner. Perry will pick up some of the remainder, but not many — Bachmann, Santorum and Gingrich and Paul will get even less.

Romney will get none.

We have at least a month of positioning and elbowing as Perry and Cain shake things down between them, and as we wait for Bachmann, Santorum, Gingrich to face reality and fold, but the latter three WILL fold, and as they do, once again, the votes will go to either Cain or Perry.

Effectively speaking, Romney has already gotten all the votes he’s going to get. That is, he’s got the RINO wing sewn up — but that’s it. The independents are not going to be that enamored with him because they are “anyone but Obama” this time around and Romney is “Obama-lite”. Romney is weak in the South and distrusted by evangelicals, but both groups have reasons to like both Cain and Perry.

It ain’t over til it’s over. And Romney is by no means assured of anything.


72 posted on 10/05/2011 7:58:39 PM PDT by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: tirednvirginia
All the conservative here who put Cain and Bachmann ahead of Perry are in for a real let down.

Perry is in third place, a position he earned. He will not rise above that. Perry supporters can stomp their feet and say they won't support anyone if Perry does not win, as some Palin supporters did tonight about their favored "candidate", but it will change nothing. Conservatives are going to support the conservative in the race, Herman Cain. Tea Partyers are going to support the Tea Partyer in the race, Herman Cain. Romney will get none of these voters and will not be able to rise much above the 25% level. Even with hundreds of millions of dollars, he's stuck there. Momentum is all with Cain especially with the boost he will get from those who had been waiting for Palin.

The Cain Train is leaving the station, don't get left behind.

73 posted on 10/05/2011 7:59:30 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Clairity
After Texas Legislature passed law to give in-state tuition to children of illegal immigrants, with only four votes against him, he didn’t veto the measure, “to make a statement”, when his veto would have been easily overridden.

Why would he veto it? He came out and strongly defended that same legislation in 2007, and then defended it again in 2011 in the last debate. Why would he veto something he supports so strongly?

He can talk without a teleprompter and his speeches are just fine

You've not seen him in many debates, have you? Or seen his stellar performance discussing abstinence education which has the same air as his gubernatorial debates, that is stumble and try to avoid questions.

Meanwhile, Herman Cain takes on the View women, takes their toughest questions, and doesn't break a sweat.
74 posted on 10/05/2011 7:59:45 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Clairity

And conservatives should listen to eh WaPo about what is best for us because.........

If Cain can’t win in the primaries so be it, I will hold my nose to get rid of Obama.

BUT dammit, I WILL support a conservative in the primaries. My $$$ are going to H Cain, all the people who were going to donate to Sarah should send him the donation they were saving for her.

The Pub establishment is dangerous too not as bad as the rats but we need to beat the pubbie establishment. Cain is the candidate Perry while preferable to mittens is still pubbie establishment.


75 posted on 10/05/2011 8:00:10 PM PDT by Leto
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To: svcw

It’s because Cain is only in the race to hurt Perry against Romney, dontcha know? That’s the conspiracy theory being perpetuated by some of Perry’s supporters...nevermind the fact Cain was in it way before Perry and before Perry was even rumored to be interested in declaring his candidacy.


76 posted on 10/05/2011 8:00:28 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: wmfights

The media wasn’t portraying Perry at the debates. Perry was doing it all himself and it was horrifying.


77 posted on 10/05/2011 8:00:57 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Ted Kennedy, John McCain, Rick Perry - D Students for Amnesty!)
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To: bwc2221

How can you compare a guy who has never held office to one that has and is? It’s not like Cain isn’t a politician - he is - it’s just he has never won any election and he started in 2000 four years after the BOD asked him to resign. Did anyone ask Perry to resign or did he not get elected? Why not compare that - there is more to a story than words that tickle conservatives.


78 posted on 10/05/2011 8:03:15 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Clairity

>Are Perry’s negatives so bad that we should rather have Romney walk away with the nomination and then be beaten by Obama?<

We shall see during the primaries. It’s hard to think that Cain’s sole purpose is to sell books when he is given the chance to use the surge in ratings just to even up with Myth and Gardasil boy.

What raises my eyebrow is how can he “slip” and claim tiredness when Cain has been in the race longer than he did and he said we were HEARTLESS in opposing illegal aliens tuition? That’s my and a good number of Freepers’ issue.


79 posted on 10/05/2011 8:04:15 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: marty60

Open slander is a nice change from mudslinging ? You Perrybots are a hoot.


80 posted on 10/05/2011 8:04:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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