Posted on 10/05/2011 6:56:06 PM PDT by Clairity
While Cain is likely to hit a ceiling in the near future, he's effectively dug into Perry's base and helped expose the frontrunner's weakness. Fracturing the anti-Romney vote has made it all the easier for Romney to win.
With New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie out of the race, no one is competing with Romney for moderate Republicans.
Cain himself might not be too upset with that outcome. While he's been a frequent critic of Romney on the trail, he endorsed the tenuous front-runner in 2008.
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Get real ~ Romney has a "cap" ~ a very real "cap". He's doing no better now than he's done in the past. Even with Old Kenosha Money behind him, and the help of Preibus, himself an Old Kenosha Money type running the RNC, it won't help.
Romney has too many negatives ~ flip flopping on issues of interest to the 55% base of the party who are social Conservatives, folding on Gay Marriage, agreeing to destroy Massachusetts economically with Romney Care ~ which also did nothing but encourage the Democrats to try to do the same thing to all of us nationally ~ and, of course, the nation is economically prostrate at the moment.
The only way Romney is going to have a place in the next Administration is if he gets out there and campaigns FOR SOMEONE ELSE!
Yes, if the conservative vote is split, Romney wins. But how is that cain’s fault?
Too early to predict that Cain would help Romney win, and given the fact that Cain surpassed Perry in several polls, you could argue that Perry is cutting into Cain’s support.
The conservative base needs to come up with ONE consensus, conservative, electable, strong leader as their candidate.
We do that - we win.
Now, is that candidate Cain, Perry or Newt?
In August it looked like Perry was the man. But he hurt himself in the debates on immigration and in being underprepared and not ‘on target’. If Perry can redeem himself on immigration and put forth a real and solid conservative agenda, it could be him.
If not, we’ve got Cain.
Nobody is trying to make our choice between Romney and Perry. That’s just the way it is. What some of us are trying to do is explain reality to people who know so little of politics and history that they believe Herman Cain is a contender. He isn’t. He’s a distraction and nothing more.
Of course Romney can win, if conservative votes are sufficiently fragmented. That’s how McCain won last time and it’s what the whole GOP establishment is counting on. I don’t think it will happen, but only because I doubt enough people will share your absurd delusion and waste votes (and time and money) on the likes of Herman Cain.
Yup, I think Cain has a better chance than Romney to win the Republican nomination, but you know what, ALL the Republicans have a chance to beat Obama ~ even Michelle Bachman!
“How is my possible vote in the primary for Cain a vote for Romney?”
If Cain is in distant third place and Perry and Romney are neck and neck, then Cain support MIGHT throw it to one or the other top guys.
That’s how. But that is presuming that Cain cant win. He’s now surging strong enough that it makes it a bit arguable.
Reagan is too conservative to get elected. Vote for Bush; he can win!!!
A vote for McClintock is a vote for Bustamante!!!
Toomey can't win, Spector for Senate!
Rubio can't win; conservatives should support Charlie Crist. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good...
If you have something concrete about Rick Perry to post for debate, by all means do so. Fear mongering like this on the other hand was tolerated here far too long in the California recall. It worked for a while, but the perpetrators have since been banned.
That cripple was the sitting Governor of New York when he ran for President and a past vice-presidential nominee. Are you seriously suggesting that there’s any comparison between Herman Cain and Franklin Roosevelt? Seriously?
“Get real ~ Romney has a “cap” ~ a very real “cap”.”
So did McCain, but he still won because conservatives were split Romney/Huckabee. you only need around 30-40% in winner take all primaries.
I’d say that Perry/Cain/Newt/Bachmann/Santorum is a step up conservativewise, but we still have to pick ONE best candidate and not divide support.
“If it’s not Perry, it’s Romney, if it’s Romney, it’s Obama.”
If it is Perry, it is a globaloneyist open-borders RINO, if it is a globaloneyist open-borders RINO, it is even worse than electing a Rat. At least Rats stick their knives in the front.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2788560/posts?page=107#107
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This is sound bite will destroy him in the general election if he's the nominee.
This is sound bite will destroy him in the general election if he's the nominee.
“Perry will be easily painted by the media as an inarticulate idiot, since he is in fact, an inarticulate idiot.”
ROFLMAO! I don’t think that is the case, but it’s still funny. I just think Perry believed he had the debates in the bag and the money behind him to blow out anyone who stood in his way, and that everyone would hold hands and sing kumbaya with him on the stage. The money’s still in the bank, but you can’t run enough ads to make a RINO a conservative. The Tea Party has nixed that steamroller effect Perry was counting on pretty nicely.
And I thought the Huckabee supporters in 2007 where relentless. You guys just won’t give up.
Cain is not, in fact, in the race. He has never been in the race and he never will be in the race. It will be a miracle if he takes a hundred delegates to the convention. He won't win a single primary. He has none of the prerequisites of a successful campaign. None.
He can't raise he requisite funds, he can't hire the requisite help, he can't forge the requisite organization, and he hasn't even got the requisite knowledge base (Right of return? What's that?) or any apparent interest in developing it. The idea that he's a contender is delusional and promoting that idea can only make the conservative movement less effective at a time when it desperately needs to be more effective.
The Cain campaign is a childish diversion. As Barry Goldwater once said: “Grow up, conservatives.”
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