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To: Olog-hai

“The financial mess has completed Germany’s redemption from pariah to the leader of Europe. …”

That is the plan?

For decades Germany was the number three economy in the world, that is hardly a “pariah”.

In Germany there is an opposite view about the bailouts that I think is more fitting: Germany has become the slave of Europe.

How else do you describe handing over your wealth to other people?

Could you imagine if it were the other way around?...

Europeans handing over their wealth to Germany....?

Let’s try that and see how it goes. LoL!


10 posted on 10/03/2011 12:51:02 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Germany has become the slave of Europe.

true in many ways. Unfortunately the image of Germans in many English/American eyes is still framed by WWII.

i still think German tourists are boors and rude, but I see that there are lots of regional variances.

14 posted on 10/03/2011 1:46:28 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Berlin_Freeper

In Germany there is an opposite view about the bailouts that I think is more fitting: Germany has become the slave of Europe
Yes, that's the view that the elites want the people in Germany to hold. But have you read the treaties of the European Union at all? The Lisbon Treaty, as have other earlier treaties, impose the Soziale Marktwirtschaft on all of the EU nations—doesn't sound too much like Germany being Europe's slave, but its master. The bailouts weren't wanted—Germany actually forced the nations to take them (why do you think it caused so many national governments to collapse?)

Back to the TEU: How about that Stability and Growth Pact, which Germany gets to flout at will but all the other countries must adhere to so strictly . . . ? If other countries put their debt above 3% of GDP, they have to become vassals of the EU according to many German elites; but Germany can remain at 6% of GDP and get away scott-free.

And have you forgotten that the Karlsruhe court decision in regards to the Treaty of Lisbon gives the Bundestag and Bundesrat power over all the EU lawmaking process? That means that Germany actually now has the power to make laws for the entire European Union, and is in control of a lawmaking body that is patterned after the Soviet Union's government.

Some slave.
18 posted on 10/03/2011 6:33:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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