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Christie back in spotlight as Perry sags
Politico ^ | 9/24/11 | Maggie Haberman

Posted on 09/24/2011 9:54:20 AM PDT by advance_copy

With the party’s frontrunner sagging, Chris Christie is reconsidering pleas from Republican elites and donors to run for president in 2012, two Republican sources told POLITICO.

The New Jersey governor has indicated he is listening to big-money backers and Republican influence-makers, and will let them know in roughly a week whether he has moved off his threat-of-suicide vow to stay on the sidelines of a presidential race that remains amorphous heading into the fall, the two sources said.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s candidacy has failed to clear a basic bar with elites and some donors, and his shoddy debate performance in Orlando has only highlighted the window for someone who Republicans searching for a Mitt Romney alternative can rally around.

Christie’s potential candidacy has been an increasingly fevered fantasy of a certain cadre of some media and business elites — mostly based in New York, with a smattering of California technology and entertainment players — since last summer. That’s when he showed up at a Sun Valley conference hosted by the investment banker Allen and Co. and wowed the crowd, including Rupert Murdoch, with what many in attendance described as a nimble mind and a speaking style that was both articulate and blunt-spoken.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; christie; palin; perry; romney
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To: MNJohnnie

yawn.

you guys said he shot his chances after the 1st debate.

you guys said he shot his chances after the 2nd debate.

and after the 10th one you will still be saying the same thing and waiting on Palin to jump into race in February!


41 posted on 09/24/2011 10:44:21 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 !)
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To: Polybius

Supergirl? What are you smoking?


42 posted on 09/24/2011 10:44:21 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: Polybius
Perry could put an end to all of this by, you know, playing like the champ his fans think he is, instead of playing like he’s got a concussion.

And of course, Brett never teased about getting in the game. But as famous as he was for teasing about getting out of the game, I think I might have looked for another quarterback to base the comparison on.

43 posted on 09/24/2011 10:50:30 AM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: RichInOC

Rick Perry is in trouble because of the reality of Rick Perry.

So true. Aside from his leanings, which are decidedly democrat even if they don’t measure up to full-blown Liberal, his description of Romney’s flip-flops approached aphasia; and he lied about being “lobbied”—i.e. BEFORE he chose to mandate Perrycervicalcare. He’s a popular governor of Texas, not always the best barometer of RIGHT.


44 posted on 09/24/2011 10:51:37 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: jessduntno
Hmmm, so you think business people are fleeing California and heading to Texas because they allow the kids of illegals to pay instate tuition? Oh my goodness what is this?

LOS ANGELES — In a unanimous decision, the California Supreme Court ruled Monday that illegal immigrants can be eligible for the same reduced tuition at public colleges and universities as legal residents of the state.

The ruling is the latest in a series of high-profile battles about state immigration policies. In addition to Arizona’s strict new immigration law, which the United States Department of Justice has challenged in court, nine other states have laws similar to California’s, with lawsuits pending in Nebraska and Texas.

Currently, students who attend at least three years of high school in California and graduate are eligible for in-state tuition at public schools, which can save them as much as $12,000 a year compared with students who come from other states.

45 posted on 09/24/2011 10:52:03 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999

I thought we were talking about Ricketts Perry? He’s going nowhere, pal. Thanks for the amusement park ride through the swirl of your alleged mind, though. Nice way to start the morning...it was this or Jabberwockey.


46 posted on 09/24/2011 10:59:21 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: jessduntno

We were talking about Rick Perry, and his ability to talk businesses into coming to Texas. YOU are the one that said it was because of hispanics and allowing the kids of illegals to pay instate tuition. I just pointed out that California (your state) does too, how does that expain everyone running from your state into Texas?


47 posted on 09/24/2011 11:02:47 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: jessduntno

Based on the current field and polls I hope Perry improves his debate performances and keeps Mitt Romney from becoming the next President. So I think Perry could prevail. It is up to him. We’ll have to see how he does going forward. The only people that have completely written Perry off this early in the game are liberals, single issue people and people who don’t like his hair or his state or whatever.


48 posted on 09/24/2011 11:05:07 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: McGavin999

“I just pointed out that California (your state) does too, how does that expain everyone running from your state into Texas?”

No, what you did was point out that Ricketts is no better than CA. Nice debate skills, Skeezix.


49 posted on 09/24/2011 11:05:36 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: plain talk

“Based on the current field and polls I hope Perry improves his debate performances and keeps Mitt Romney from becoming the next President.”

MSM got you convinced they are the only choices? In their wet dreams, maybe. Plenty of time left and nothing is closed.


50 posted on 09/24/2011 11:07:35 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: McGavin999

“It doesn’t matter what the sound of your last name is.”

"Those opposed to subsidies and rewards for illegal aliens are heartless".

51 posted on 09/24/2011 11:10:01 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RichInOC
Rick Perry isn’t in trouble because of the fantasy of Sarah Palin. Rick Perry is in trouble because of the reality of Rick Perry.

So, the Perfect Conservative that will first defeat Mitt Romney and then defeat Obama is ....... who?

Perry is in trouble because he is a poor debater. Perry is in trouble because it has been reported that he declined to engage in any special debate preparation to hone his debating skills. In short, Perry got overconfident and cocky and that bit him in the @ss. Hubris always does.

The "Perfect Sarah" and the "Perfect Conservative" dynamic, however, does play right into slick-talking Romney's hand. Romney did the debate preparation homework that Perry was foolish enough to ignore.

Romney has played conservatives like a pro.

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Perry’s support of tuition for children of Murderers and Rapists gets him in trouble (An Alternate Universe story)

Once upon a time, in Alternate Universe Earth, a liberal flip-flopper named Romney, who had once supported abortion, gun controls, something called Romneycare and had tried to be just as liberal as somebody called Ted Kennedy when running for Senator, decided to run for President.

An extremely liberal, some would say Marxist, President was already in office so the road to the Presidency was through a Party called the GOP whose base was very conservative.

The polling leader in the GOP nomination race was a Governor of a state called Texas who, must be admitted, was overconfident, a poor debater and had foolishly decided not to practice very much for the debates. Romney a skilled debater, decided that he would set a trap by making Murderers and Rapists an issue.

Some politicians had advocated spending Billions of dollars building a Wall around every city to keep out Murderers and Rapists. That sounded like a very impractical idea to Perry since Murderers and Rapists would simply jump over, cut through or dig under the Walls with ease. Perry said that more Police "boots on the ground" were needed to stop the Murderers and Rapists. The day of the third debate, Romney was joined in his plan by many of the other so-called "dwarves" that did not have much of a chance. The poorly prepared Perry was a pork chop in a pit bull kennel.

All night long, the cry ran out, "Build Walls! Build Walls around every city to keep out Murderers and Rapists!"

All night long, Perry said that building Walls was a waste of money since any Murderer and Rapist faced with a 20 foot Wall could simply rent a 21 foot ladder. What was needed was more "boots on the ground".

All to no avail. Romney's plan was working.

"If Perry is against The Walls, then Perry is FOR Murderers and Rapists!"

Then came the clincher: In Alternate Universe Texas, the children of convicted Rapists and even Murderers on Death Row paid in-state tuition rates if those children had grown up in Texas during their high school years. (That is even true on our own Earth.) Alternate Universe Texas did not believe in punishing innocent children for the Sins of the Father. The conservative Texas Legislature had even voted 98%, 177 to 4, to keep things that way.

But, Romney pushed his point during the debate: If Perry agrees with 98% of the conservative Texas Legislature that the sons and daughters of Rapists and Murderers who grew up in Texas during their high school years should be charged in-state tuition rates, then Perry was FOR Rapists and Murderers.

At one point, the poorly prepared Perry (his mother warned him that he should have practiced for the debates) was so frustrated that he blurted out, "If you say that we should not educate children who have grown up in our state for no other reason than what their fathers did by no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart."

The next morning, the headlines read: "Perry says that those who oppose Murderers and Rapists have no heart."

The plan worked.

Perry was attacked on all sides and his polls sank while Romney soared to the top of the polls in the GOP nomination race.

Then, in January 2013, a man was sworn in as President of a country called the United States. At best, that man was liberal Romney and, at worst, that man was a Marxist named Obama.

Which of the two men became President?

That is another story. This story only deals with how a liberal called Romney played conservatives like a cheap fiddle.

52 posted on 09/24/2011 11:10:30 AM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: Sea Parrot

Fat Boy’s

Is that really necessary in this conversation????


53 posted on 09/24/2011 11:16:36 AM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh... where would our country be without this brilliant man?)
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To: jessduntno
MSM got you convinced they are the only choices?

No. I don't pay much attention to the MSM. Either Perry or Romney will get the Republican nomination. The rest of the candidates are just low level noise.

54 posted on 09/24/2011 11:19:36 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: jessduntno; EveningStar
Supergirl? What are you smoking?

What's the matter, jessduntno?

Have you not seen the running list, kept up by EveningStar, of all the historical and mythological figures that Sarah Palin has been compared to on FR by the Sarah Palin supporters?

This is an ongoing list of historical, popular, and Biblical people; fictional characters, as well as animals that Sarah Palin (™) has been compared to on FR:

Even Wonder Woman is on that list.

After all that, you would begrudge me a tongue-in-cheek reference to Supergirl?

Hey, EveningStar, does your list include tongue-in-cheek comparisons, like mine, or does it include only comparisons made by Palin supporters that actual MEAN it?

55 posted on 09/24/2011 11:24:03 AM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: jessduntno

Well, no, see in Texas the governor does what the people want. I don’t believe it’s the same in California (which is why everyone is fleeing to Texas).


56 posted on 09/24/2011 11:24:03 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: plain talk

“No. I don’t pay much attention to the MSM. Either Perry or Romney will get the Republican nomination. The rest of the candidates are just low level noise.”

You mean the rest of the announced candidates? I don’t think I believe there is no one else out there that JUST produces “low level noise.”


57 posted on 09/24/2011 11:24:35 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: McGavin999

Perry is my choice. The media pushes Mitt on us because they know full well the evangelical vote will not come out just as it stayed at home in the Dole vs Clinton race. Clinton had his head in the guillotine and still pulled off the win because evangelicals stayed home. I like Mitt. I like his family. BUT sooner or later, everyone will be made aware that evangelicals will not vote for a Morman. They are the real swing vote. That’s one reason Perry started off his campaign by telling them in no uncertain terms, “I am one of you.”


58 posted on 09/24/2011 11:24:57 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Who killed Jack Wheeler?)
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To: advance_copy

“The New Jersey governor has indicated he is listening to big-money backers “

Crony capitalism much?


59 posted on 09/24/2011 11:29:41 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: McGavin999

Well, Perry has quit being Gov just a few months after being elected and promising he would not run for Prez.


60 posted on 09/24/2011 11:30:23 AM PDT by newfreep (I am a "terrorist". I am Sarah Palin!)
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