He's not a smooth GOP debater. Smooth GOP debater....As a FReeper said, what we need is for Perry to do for the US what he did for Texas: low taxes, low regulation, business frienly climate, that results in job creation and economic growth.
“Perry was given “gotcha” questions”
Chris Wallace made Perry call us heartless?
Rick Perry did not display those conservative American values last night. I've worked hard all my life, put myself through school at my own expense and I am in process of putting my kids through school at my own expense.
So it really ticks me off to see illegal aliens coming across the border in Texas so they can put their own kids through school at no expense to them.
If Rick Perry is going to consider me "heartless" because I have a problem with that, then I do not want him representing me in any political office.
He's not a smooth GOP debater. Smooth GOP debater....The other magnet is the one that attracts illegals to come across our borders to make a better life for themselves and their children. Many of these people live in communities that are unsafe for their children and have no chance advance their children through the education route. Mexico is in the process of social dishevel and is a terrible place to raise children. America is their escape route as long as Mexico fails to reform their society. By plugging that escape route, you push Mexico to a crisis point and revolution. We would be having a “Southern Spring” on our southern border.
I would hope this puts a better focus on the debate.
Is this a comedy thread?
Perry calls 81% of Americans racists without a heart, in reponse to "gotcha" questions? Seriously? I guess you are forgetting the first debate, in which the "Texas Economic Miracle" dominated the discussion - you know, where he could "showcase his record and plans".
Unfortunately we see now that this "miracle" was mostly for the benefit of immigrants, 40% legal, 40% ILLEGAL, while native-born Texans received only 20% of the new jobs since 2007. Is that the sort of "record" you want to see him "showcase"?
He has pretty much an all-America background and story, from his days as a young man, eagle scout, high school football, college, military, working for his dad on a cotton farm, to politics, where he started as a democrat (as a lot of Texans from that era did) and ended up changing to the GOP when it was clear the DNC had left them.
I have to say I genuinely like the guy.
I agree with a lot of what he says, from foreign policy, to his basic feelings about Social Security and how to deal with it, to a lot of his economic sense.
However, even though he described his reasoning for the Texas, illegal children in-state tuition, I cannot agree with it, and also reject his feelings about the fence. As a politician he pandered in 2010 to La Raza, a racist organization with goals that would lead to a dividing of American terrirory. He should never have given them the time of day.
There's a lot of his immigration policy I can agree with...but those points about in-state tuition for illegal's children, about the fence, and being willing to pander to La Raza are big negative issues for me.
Also, there seems to be a lot of political deals he makes where those who support him end up getting sweetheart taxpayer funded positions and deals. I do not like that. People and companies should support him for his positions on their own, and thaat general impact for good that they will have, not for special "deals" they may get...and the same should apply vice-versa from his perspective.
So...I believe Perry can improve in those areas. Right now, I am a Palin supporter and will support her should she enter the race.
I know that Perry would be orders of magnitude better than Obama, and that many, many of his ideas and positions are mine and would support him in the general election should he win the primaries.
We don’t need to elect someone based on one or two issues either. Perry has a good record, both fiscal and social.
The debate format is excellent for seeing how somebody can communicate their ideas, and not just read a teleprompter.
Perry can’t communicate. That has become clear. I wonder who ghost wrote his book? (Not Bill Ayers, at least.)
But I’ll never support another open-borders RINO. If he’s nominated, I’ll vote for him over the communist traitor in chief we have now, but that’s it.
Yeah, that's exactly what McCain said four years ago.
And I'm sure he'd be saying the exact same thing if all the talking heads said he won the debate.
If you don't give the children of illegals in state tuition, you don't have a heart and society is pushing into a life of crime?
Please.
Well if Perry’s vision is instate tuition for illegals I don’t think even a smooth talker is going to pull that one off.
Consistent public incoherence is certainly not a reason to elect, either. One of the most important roles of the President of the United States is vigorous use of the bully pulpit; if one is unable to frame and advance an argument using actual words, one is simply unable to fulfill that important role.
But the problem with Perry is not only abysmal debating performance, which is bad enough. The deeper problem is his piss-poor policy on an issue of central importance to his own base: illegal immigration. And even worse (making this a fatal error, in my opinion) in defending that piss-poor policy, he pissed on his own team.
I refuse to vote for anyone who calls me a heartless racist. That Perry doesn't seem to understand the political lay of the land on his own side – that conservatives have been on the receiving end of that vile invective from the left for decades and we have, unanimously, drawn a line in the sand on it – demonstrates a political tin ear that deserves to remain in Texas. Yet instead of taking up our cause to fight, finally, the left – he joins them in attacking his own army?
Oh, hell. no.
I don’t need to elect another pro-illegal alien republican either.
Okay, assuming for the sake of argument that the other Republican candidates, their supporters, and the media were inclined to give Perry a pass on his debate skills (and I don’t think that’s likely somehow), what evidence whatsoever is there that the Democrat nominee will?
Hands down, Perry is the best possible man to run for President
OF MEXICO.
Well, to clarify things, clairity. What most people found distasteful about Perry’s performance was his stance on illegals and in state tuition. Perry is for amnesty and he showed it last night and in past debates. Whether or not he is a good debater is irrelevant, whether he is for amnesty is very relevant.
BS
Perry is a man of minimal intellect.