Posted on 09/12/2011 7:14:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey
Broadcast on: CNN
Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT
The Candidates:
Michele Bachmann
Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Herman Cain
Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.
Newt Gingrich
Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.
Jon Huntsman
Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.
Ron Paul
Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008
Rick Perry
Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.
Mitt Romney
Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).
Rick Santorum
Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.
That all may be true, but Perry went about it the wrong way, and has owned up to it. I think that's honorable on his part.
I couldn't agree more. What the heck is this smarmy, sanctimonious jerk doing in our party? The guy's a lib... it's obvious.
Ron Paul - OMFG just when you thought Paul couldn't get any nuttier! he quotes OBL! I would of loved to have seen a huge hook appear and drag him off the stage or maybe some doctors arrive and put him into a straight jacket before they haul him off the stage.
LOL! The only thing crazier than Ron Paul are the drooling idiot sign-wielding Paul-bots/Paulistinians who follow this crazy uncle in the attic all over the country for years on end. (Don't these loons have jobs?) We've seen these moonbats (arriving by the busloads) year after year at CPAC - they're certifiable.
If there's a post-debate straw poll, the Paul-bots WILL "FReep" it. It's their mission in life.
Am not in Perry's court but this isn't the big deal it's being made out to be because no matter what way Perry presented the idea....the opt OUT for parents was there.
What I do have a problem with is why would any Governor introduce this in the first place....it raises a flag as to what was Perry thinking, and his remarks were weak at best in defending this....as if is "team" devised a response rather tan Perrry coming fully clean on why he did this.
“By the way MD Anderson and Texas lead the nation in cancer research AND CURES”
One of the few posts on this thread that few, if any, can argue with.
Perry EO worked to make it easier by allowing online optout forms. etc.
Once we get the Bozo out of office we need to institute a new military strategy. No more nation building. The next time we go to war we need to do just two things:
1) Kick ass
2) Haul ass
Get in and get out. Punish and evacuate. Leave these people with their own rubble to clean up.
They have saved two of my friends.
Audience not liking Paul's defense of Muslims. DEFINITELY not liking his defense of Palestinians.
First of all, any mandatory vaccine law that includes an "opt-out" doesn't impinge on parental rights.
But ignoring the opt-out -- Mandatory public school impinges on parental rights. Which candidate opposes that? Mandatory vaccines impinge on parental rights. Which candidate has fought to overturn mandatory vaccines in their states? Alaska? has them. Pennsylvania? Has them. Minnesota? has them. Mass.? Has them.
This isn't about mandates that impinge on parental rights. If it were, we would be talking about scrapping vaccine laws altogether, along with the public school laws and the child safety seat laws, all of which mandate parental actions that impinge on parental control.
It's about GARDISIL. It's about picking a PARTICULAR vaccination and making it mandatory. For some, it's about giving children the ability to have sex without the fear of getting a sexually transmitted disease -- and they oppose that. For others, it's about forcing little girls to have sex. Well, not really, but that's how they talk about it, and what is meant by "innocent little girls". Does Bachmann believe their are "guilty little girls" for whom the vaccination would be OK? No, what she is implying is that the vaccine "takes away their innocence". That is absurd -- it's not sex, it's a vaccine that protects you from a sexually transmitted disease.
For others (me included in this one), it's about a vaccine that wasn't yet tested sufficiently to make mandating it worth the risk, relative to the rather low reward. I wrote two op-ed articles for my local paper about this subject. The problem is, that valid argument is hardly a reason to reject somebody for President. He listened to a few people, who convinced him the reward was worth the risk. I think he was wrong, he made a bad decision, but everybody makes bad decisions.
That is why opponents make this about "mandates that impinge on parental rights", even though it has nothing to do with that.
If Merck had come up with a vaccine that would prevent HIV, I'm guessing some people would still be upset because HIV is also spread by sexual contact, and I guess they feel it's not the state's job to encourage people to get protected from life-threatening disease if it means they can have sex with less risk. We are so afraid of "encouraging" sex? That we'd rather have our kids at risk of death or lifelong disease, just so we can use that risk to help convince them to wait until marriage? Even though they might marry some guy with HPV and end up dead?
Or are we thinking they can get the vaccine the week before the wedding? Or are we so sure our daughters will choose husbands who never had sex, never had oral sex, and will never fall into sin and have sex with some other woman who has the disease?
I oppose making it a mandatory school vaccine. But I reject the argument that there is no good reason to consider it, and I certainly reject the argument that Perry knew it was wrong but did it because he got a $5000 Merck donation.
I think he did it because his former Chief of Staff sold him on it.
It has only been stated over and over but some people only hear what they want to hear and others lie about what they heard.
Eaker, I knew about the opt-out clause, but I was nonetheless offended that my Governor would issue an edict from on high, forcing my daughter to take this vaccine, unless I signed a piece of paper choosing otherwise.
I think (and apparently so do lots of others, including the Texas legislature) that it was wrong, heavy-handed, and a slap in the face of our shared American principles to go about it that way.
I always had trepidation with Afghanistan, and I understand your trepidation with Iraq, but Iraq could have been a success.
It still may be.
It will be difficult for the Kurds to stay free once Mookie Al Sadr returns.
Turkey is also going rogue.
This race isn't against Obama but between them for the victor and what they will do and stand for. Besides that's what Newt's there for and he's bringing it home every time speaks...gotta love the man for his statemansip and calling it right.
Additionally....EVERYBODY gets it about Obama....including his 'former' followers. Te bar is so low with Obama's many failures...He'll get creamed as the field lessons more and more.
“Perry EO worked to make it easier by allowing online optout forms. etc.”
Perrywinkle should have stopped when he said he made a mistake on Gardasil but he continued to argue the reasoning; that’s when the quicksand sucked him under. Same thing on state wetback tuition - how can it be reasonably argued that wetbacks should get cheaper tuition than out of state US citizens. Totally indefensible! He said it’s not the Dream Act, but I say it’s pretty damn close.
The next time we go to war we should have to declare WAR or declare retaliation.
If retaliation, definitely your 2 step plan.
If war, then the only way to go to 3 step plan (kick, demilitarize, haul) is to Require UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER OF A PRE-IDENTIFIED enemy (as in WWII) and all deployed to war will stay for the duration of war. No more “rotation wars”.
Or.... maybe no one on stage is going after Gingrich because they would come out on the short end of it? What other contender up there would dare go after Newt?
Before the 2008 election, Newt was polling at 15% (with McCain, Guiliani, Romney, Huckabee already running) on just speculation he would get in. I think he might have jumped in too early, and his campaign did get off to a pretty bad start. The media has savaged him, but he is slowly bouncing back. Nobody on the stage tonight wants to be one on one against Newt.... guaranteed. Obama vs. Newt in a debate would be much worse than Edwards vs. Cheney.
It took all of three minutes after Wolfie said good night before I got a Bachmann email entitled “I’m Offended!” arghhh.
“They have saved two of my friends”
They saved my wife from breast cancer.
I think Tommy Franks did the right thing trying to rebuild Iraq.
I dont think you could ever install civilization in Afghanistan.
I missed the Greta show at its earlier time, but it’s running again in about 5 minutes from the writing of this post here, and I’ll watch it.
Amen.
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