Posted on 09/12/2011 5:43:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
We always knew that Krugman couldnt add or subtract. As an economist, the guy is a terrific writer. And fantasy is his genre.
But the fact that he thinks that weve all been secretly ashamed of our reactions to 9/11 for the last ten years should be enough to place him in observation for indulging in too much fantasy.
What happened after 9/11 and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not, writes Krugman as his sick 9/11 tribute, was deeply shameful. The atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue.
Way to unify us Paul.
Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush, says Krugman raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.
This is not a country that has a great fear of expressing itself. We have way too much self-love for that. If we were secretly ashamed, wed go on Oprah and proclaim our secret shame to the world, as many liberals like Krugman have done. Or we'd write a book about it.
There were no fake heroes, as Krugman has called Rudy Guiliani and George W. Bush, after 9/11. No one was anxious to cash in on the war that was declared by Osama bin Laden in 1996 against the U.S.
Mistakes? Yes. There were many.
As Winston Churchill observed, wars are made of up surprises and disappointments. But that doesnt mean they arent worth waging.
Contrast Bushs reactions at 9/11 to the Osama bin Laden is still dead World Tour that Obama engaged in after he watched Seal Team Six dispatch bin Laden on his TV set.
All that was missing in front of Obama was popcorn and a Snuggie. No fake hero there.
Just a faux one.
The outpouring after the cowardly attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon was universal. So was the coalition that went into Afghanistan to kick out Al Qaeda and the Taliban sheltering them.
You had all the elements that liberals love including UN authorization, abuse of women, oppression, blight, gobs of government grant money and Congressional approval to wage war in Afghanistan.
Oh. Thats right. Scratch that last one. Liberals dont care about Congressional authorization as long as Obamas doing something to hurt Israel and support jihadists in North Africa.
Certainly the war that we have waged against radical Islam since 9/11, including the war that has still produced the Arab worlds only true democracy in Iraq, has cost America something.
But there has been no democracy in Egypt or Syria or Libya or any of the clients of the so-called Arab Spring. There are exactly two democracies in the Middle East: Israel and Iraq. If thriving democracies arent in the best interest of the United States in the Middle East, I dont know what the hell is. We fought for them in Europe. Why should we do less for the Middle East and Central Asia when it improves our own security?
I will admit that the global war on terror- including the one in Iraq- is responsible for the much of the uncertainty and fear in the financial markets over the last ten years. We lost the peace dividend we gained after winning the Cold War.
And I dont think well get back to robust financial markets until weve gone a much longer way towards crushing Islamists out of existence including stabilizing Iraq.
But to pretend that everything would have been great had we not invaded Afghanistan or Iraq gets you about as far as pretending Al Qaeda didnt attack the United States.
Its like pretending the world would have been a much better place if we hadnt stood up against Stalin and waged the Cold War, which is exactly what some liberals would have had us do.
And to pretend that somehow lobbing cruise missiles at Moammar Gadhafi in Tripoli is morally superior to ground operations in Iraq or Afghanistan is a logically flawed proposition.
Say what you will, but both liberals and conservatives- with the Ron Paul exception- have waged war in their own way for their own reasons.
Mr. Krugman would do well to respect those reasons.
We have not created the conditions of subjection and oppression in the Arab world that more than anything else is responsible for the attacks of 9/11, the war in Iraq, the uprisings in the Islamic world. But he is right that we do control our actions and must be responsible for them.
But ashamed of them?
Only one American should be ashamed by his reaction to 9/11. But the insane often feel no shame.
So just ignore him already. Works for me.
Krugman backed John Edwards.
Right now it will take:
retired gimpers stop voting for Democrats
Universities loose enough money that they stop hiring liberals as teachers
letter to the times...
Dear Paul,
First, let me say that you deserve kudos for writing what you feel. That is the only thing I will or can say that is positive.
To suggest that 9.11 had quickly became a shame because of what you term faux heroes in the name of Messrs. Kerick, Giulianni, and Bush is not even an interesting re-do of your animus toward people who do not think like you dothinking being a task normally achieved by human beings able to process informationa task that has apparently become a strain by your office.
These men have never made the claim that somehow they were heroes. They were and are mere mortals who happened to be in positions that required response and action as leaders. Oh, much to your chagrin, were they destined perhaps to be in place at the time of the evil horror. I want to mention, since you didnt, that the evil horror was brought to New York, Washington DC and Pennsylvania by what most in the country (that would be the most too who do not buy the Times) call radical Muslims born out of radical Islam, taught by wretched evil mullahs.
Spell the with an h, please. One should re-read even though you have spell-check. Perhaps you added te, to your dictionary. I dont know why but it is not surprising based on much of what you have been saying and writing lately. It is a sad thing when one slips into some form of mental disability. I am sorry you have for it is sad to see such a potential become such a withered thing.
A relative of mine wrote the book, Conscience of a Liberal, and I do not see the title as being accurate for this screed. Although historical now, the book remains a reference for many to absorb and appreciate for the economic and agricultural period that began in the thirties. Mr. Packer would not appreciate your use of the term conscience or liberal because you are proving that the liberal mind of this day is not like it once wasnot like it once could contribute, not like it once strived to be an honest voiceand not so shallow to call people faux heroes who happened to be on scene. Whether or not there is an active conscience in those who call themselves liberal is for others to determine on their own. I have my own point of view on this.
If part of this blog was unwritten but would have included your negative reactions to the United States going to war, what response other than war could have been appropriate? Do we wait for another attack? What response does evil deserve in your view? Do you think rebuke by voice is enough? How about a strong letter? Really? There are times, Paul. There are times.
Andrew Huddleston September 12, 2011
He took off the fake veneer of phoney liberalism and revealed the ugly anti American true face of liberalism they hide so well from the general public Krugman will rue the day he wrote this vile filth
“...What will it take for us (or at least me) retired gimpers to start rioting in the streets to take back our country?...”
I guess that’s an answer only you can provide, brother. What is the line in the sand for you personally, I suppose, is the question. Do you have
a war left in you? Because that’s what it will be.
For me, it’s the firearms issue. They come for those, and well, I’ll just leave it to the imagination without saying anything else. That’s the last straw. At that
point, they want your ass totally broken, totally helpless, and completely powerless. Hell, if they thought they could get away with it without
being seriously bloodied and damaged beyond repair, they’d have already gone for broke. Hence “Project Gunwalker” (Fast & Furious) and
their cowardly, treasonous attempt at subversion of our Constitional and God given rights through a generated false-flag Reichstag crisis.
Has anyone stood up and taken to the streets on this issue yet? Crickets.....wind..... If EVER there was a reason, there it is, right now. We can hardly
get “our” side in Congress to go after this criminal admin, because they’re afraid of a stupid word - “Racist!!!!” (ooh....evil!) in spite of the multitude
of criminal actions and outrages this admin has already inflicted on us.
So many lines have already been crossed, and we, being the TRUE picture of tolerant, patient, good citizens, are disinclined to “riot in the streets” - why?
Because we’re basically good, decent, hardworking, productive folk who actually still believe in the system.
And as a result of that, we have backed up, repeatedly, over and over again. Because WE are the Good Guys.
To my mind, the time for that methodology is over; it’s the recipe for defeat, and the reason we are where we are right now. They will keep pushing us as long
and as far as we keep backing up - it’s their way. The definition of “peace” to Marxists is “the absence of opposition to our goals”.
They don’t understand the meaning of “live and let live”, nor do they even care to try to understand it - it’s not even in their lexicon, except for those on
their side and with their sick mentality and skewed view of society.
IOW, they are in a perpetual state of WAR with all who disagree with them.
Our side, on the other hand, does not see it as war; we are for the most part simple folk who still believe in letting the other guy have his say, believing in
“playing fair” and “by the rules” politically. Mudslinging is distasteful, it seems, just too “confrontational”, and we rarely even stand up for OUR side when the
liberal socialist scum trash them in public; witness the pitiful reactions of some of “our” side when Sarah Palin was being verbally raped daily by the media.
Where were OUR warriors coming to her aid, castigating the Dem sycophant mediots and their talking points?
In a different day and age, a BETTER day and age, had a woman been publically and daily subjected to the vicious hate-filled slime that those on the
Left have inflicted on her, teeth would have been knocked out by MEN jumping to her defense. Now? Geez, even her war hero “Maverick” running mate let her
be publically savaged during the campaign, and then viciously TURNED ON HIS OWN SIDE for bringing up any dirt on the opposition.
The key thing to realize is - there ARE no rules in this battle, except the ones we impose on ourselves. The other side sure as hell isn’t playing
by any rules - except one - Win At All Costs. And they’ve been ruthlessly efficient at it for several decades, while we keep stepping back,
electing spineless compromisers and “moderates” who push THEIR ball forward, even if its only a few inches; THEIR agenda still moves forward.
So to answer your question, I don’t know what it will take for those of us who still consider ourselves AMERICANS and not nebulous “citizens of the world”
or socialists to stand up and get in their faces and finally throw their asses onto the trash heap of history. I only know where my personal line in the sand is.
I suspect that it is the same line for many, many others - one has only to peruse any number of threads out here on FR to see a corroboration of that.
It’s a question that each one of us must answer for ourselves; “what am I personally willing to do, to sacrifice, to bleed for, to do to regain what these subversive
scumbags have stolen from us?” And where is the breaking point when enough is enough?
Again, only you can answer that for yourself.
” For me, its the firearms issue. They come for those, and well, Ill just leave it to the imagination without saying anything else.”
Come for 100,000,000 guns?
And 500,000,000 rounds of ammo?
They know better. The private sector has been collecting guns for 100 years or more, and most (like me) know how to use them.
“...Come for 100,000,000 guns?...”
Like I said, bro... if they remotely thought they could get away with it openly and brazenly without serious damage, they’d have done it already.
To my mind, they’re just f***ing insane; liberalism is a mental disease. They may be insane, but they aren’t stupid.
And Welcome to Free Republic, by the way....
Note: this topic is from September 12, 2011. Thanks Kaslin.
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