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2nd Arizona crime scene yields guns from ATF sting
Associated Press ^ | 9/10/11 | Staff

Posted on 09/10/2011 9:47:47 PM PDT by Nachum

Phoenix — Guns tied to a botched federal weapons-smuggling investigation have been recovered at a second Arizona crime scene, according to federal and state authorities. The Arizona Republic (http://bit.ly/oB98j1) reported Saturday that two guns were found in the back of a stolen car in Maricopa last year that had rammed two Arizona Department of Public Safety vehicles. Federal agents contacted the DPS this week and said a trace of the guns revealed they were part of a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives sting in 2009 that inadvertently

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arizona; atf; banglist; batfe; crime; fastandfurious; guns; gunwalker

1 posted on 09/10/2011 9:47:58 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


2 posted on 09/10/2011 9:49:20 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Holder's people guns.
3 posted on 09/10/2011 9:52:38 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Nachum
Ugh...Ugh...Lock and Load. Lock and Load. The realization that we are at war without actually knowing we are is a detriment to us all...
4 posted on 09/10/2011 9:53:31 PM PDT by hope
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To: Nachum

Sounds like the obama & holder civilian defense force is getting off to a bad start.


5 posted on 09/10/2011 9:56:08 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Nachum

Why do they call it botched when it never should have happened in the first place.


6 posted on 09/10/2011 9:58:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Nachum

Just imagine if this happened under Bush’s watch - the screaming for impeachment and imprisonment wouldn’t have stopped.

Our government is at war with the citizens.


7 posted on 09/10/2011 10:09:03 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Aria

And has been for a while now. :(


8 posted on 09/10/2011 10:10:06 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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9 posted on 09/10/2011 10:19:10 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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“Three Phoenix ATF agents told Congress that instead of interdicting the straw buyers, they were ordered to monitor sales and track the weapons up the cartel-leadership chain.”

If this is the rationale for Fast and Furious then we need to question the ATF’s leadership’s understanding of the cartels. A cartel is like any other large company, but with more bodies laying around. The leadership of a standard company, say Wal-Mart, does not concern itself with buying consumables. A buyer buys consumables.

Since we keep recovering guns at crime scenes, that means they are consumed. Consumables. The most a high level cartel manager would do is look at the statistics and say, “We’re spending too much on consumables.”

Maybe ATF had this Hollywood scene in mind where the CEO of a cartel would come to a warehouse to approve the buy of a bunch of weapons. (There would be a shoot-out. The TV version would be cut for a commercial.) If the Cartel leader did show up at the warehouse, then THAT cartel wouldn’t be worth worrying about. A cartel boss would no more approve weapons buys than the CEO of Wal-Mart would approve a warehouse full of toner cartridges.


10 posted on 09/11/2011 4:24:34 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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I say they are ending up right where they were suppose to end up. It’s not like this was done so the guns could be used on a range, or for wall art.

These guns were let loose to kill people, with the end result of the Govt. taking all guns away from everyone. Once that is done controlling the population is a lot easier.

This government is not of the people, way too big, and growing to fast


11 posted on 09/11/2011 5:15:40 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reefdiver

I say you’re right.


12 posted on 09/11/2011 7:53:02 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Nachum
Obama and Holder should be tried and if convicted suffer the penalties that traitors are due.



Fast and Furious was nothing short of TREASON

13 posted on 09/12/2011 5:40:58 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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