Posted on 09/10/2011 6:35:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
I still have my Che Guevara poster. Che Guevara was a freedom fighter. (Bob Beckel on FoxNews The Five Sept. 5th)
If Bob Beckels freedom-fighter had been allowed his fondest bit of freedom-fighting Bob Beckels incinerated remains would fit in a gin bottle today. America is the great enemy of mankind! Against those hyenas there is no option but extermination!...If the missiles had remained, we would have fired them against the very heart of the U.S., including New York City.
For the record: Ernesto Che Guevara was second in command, chief executioner, and chief KGB liaison for a regime that jailed more political prisoners per capita than did Stalins during the Great Terror and murdered more people (out of a population of 6.4 million) in its first three years in power than Hitlers murdered (out of a population of 70 million) in its first six. Many, perhaps most, of those murdered and jailed by the regime Che Guevara co-founded were Batista opponents.
The Stalinist regime Che Guevara imposed on Cuba also stole the savings and property of 6.4 million citizens, made refugees of 20 percent of the population from a nation formerly deluged with immigrants and whose citizens had achieved a higher standard of living than those residing in half of Europe. Many opponents of the regime Che Guevara co-founded qualify as the longest-suffering political prisoners in modern history, having suffered prison camps, forced labor and torture chambers for a period three times as long in Che Guevaras Gulag as Alexander Solzhenitsyn suffered in Stalins Gulag. Most of these had been Batista opponents.
Don't put him in a list of fascists. The fascists (Batista) were the ones he was trying to get rid of. (Bob Beckel on FoxNews The Five Sept. 5th)
For the record: According to the Cuba Archive Project, the Castro regime with firing squads, forced-labor camps, torture and drownings at sea has caused an estimated 102,000 Cuban deaths. According to the Harper Collins Atlas of the Second World War, Nazi repression caused 172,260 French civilian deaths during the occupation. France was nation of 42 million in 1940. Cuba was a nation of 6.5 million in 1960. My calculator reveals that Beckels freedom-fighter caused an enormously higher percentage of deaths among the people he freed than the Nazis caused among the French they enslaved and tortured with the SS and Gestapo.
Beckel tells the Fox Five that the CIA killed many more people than Che and implies that in the 50s the agency was Ches enemy.
In fact during the late 1950s the Castro brothers and Che Guevara had no better friends--and Fulgencio Batista few worse enemies--than the CIA. Me and my staff were all Fidelistas, (Robert Reynolds, the CIAs Caribbean Desks specialist on the Cuban Revolution from 1957-1960.)
Everyone in the CIA and everyone at State was pro-Castro, except (Republican) ambassador Earl Smith. (CIA operative in Santiago Cuba, Robert Weicha.)
Dont worry. Weve infiltrated Castros guerrilla group in the Sierra Mountains. The Castro brothers and Ernesto Che Guevara have no affiliations with any Communists whatsoever. (crackerjack Havana CIA station chief Jim Noel 1958.)
Listen, we (the U.S.) did not have the most stellar reputation in Latin America and South America during the 1950s and '60s .when the CIA was complicit in the assassination of Allende, that was killing a head of state. (Bob Beckel)
Ground control to Major Bob: Allende died in the 70s. But whatever. The leftist proverb that he was assassinated by the CIA was spun and spread only by the hardest of hard-left wackos. Not even Allendes own family believed it. An investigation including an autopsy by Chilean authorities just last month confirmed that Salvador Allende committed suicide. Surely you read the New York Times, Bob?
(Che) did help Fidel Castro get rid one of the biggest thugs and murdering bastards there ever was, and that was Batista in Cuba. (Bob Beckel)
Batista was a mulatto grandson of slaves born on the dirt floor of a palm roofed shack in the Cuban countryside. As President (via honest elections 1940-44, bloodless coup 1952-58) he always enjoyed the support of Cubas labor unions. And under Batista, according to a study by the International Labor Organization, the Cuban workforce was more highly unionized than the U.S. work force, with Cubas Industrial laborers earning the 8th highest wages in the world.
Cubas laborers always maintained a stony indifference to Fidel Castros movement, admitted Cubas richest man and Fidel and Che bankroller Julio Lobo, who knew because he employed thousands of them.
So heres Bob Beckel bashing a black politician of lowly origin who enjoyed overwhelming unionized labor support--while hailing the lily-white rich-boys, Fidel and Che, who outlawed labor unions and sent such as Richard Trumka and Jimmy Hoffa to the firing squad or prison. Wheres Trumka, Hoffa and Maxine Waters on this? Using liberals own standards Beckel sure sounds like an elitist--and a racist to boot.
No doubt Beckel picked up the leftist proverb about Batista as one of the biggest murdering bastards there ever was from a meme hatched in 1957 by a Fidelista Cuban magazine publisher named Miguel Angel Quevedo. The meme asserts that Batistas police and army murdered 20,000 Cubans and is still parroted by the MSM/Academia axis.
For the record: Ten years after he hatched and spread the lie, Quevedo (from exile, he scooted out just ahead of a Fidelista firing squad) confessed to the lie and greatly regretted how the lie helped the propaganda campaign to put Fidel and Che in power. The regret for the calamity he helped bring upon Cuba was such that, that right after signing the letter, Miguel Angel Quevedo put a gun to his head and blew his brains out.
The idea of picking Che Guevara and calling him a mass-murder is crazy. (Bob Beckel)
Certainly we execute! boasted Che Guevara while addressing the hallowed halls of the U.N. General Assembly Dec. 9, 1964. And we will continue executing as long as it is necessary! According to the Black Book of Communism, those firing-squad executions (murders, actually; execution implies a judicial process) had reached 14,000 by the end of the 60s, the equivalent, given the relative populations, of almost a million executions in the U.S. I dont need proof to execute a man, snapped Che to a judicial toady in 1959. I only need proof that its necessary to execute him.
Mr. Beckel displays an ignorance of history similar to that of Mr. Obama.....though I believe that Mr. Obama’s ignorance is far more profound.
So, my wife and I have a running dialog about which Fox News contributor we dislike more: Bob Beckel or Alan Colmes. Beckel gets the slight edge after this...
What Che really wanted was to be female and bear Fidel’s children. That’s why he was such a nasty little girl.
I loathe Bob Beckel.
T-shirts For 'Tards
i call beckel
bad fart
because the smell lingers after he’s been on the air.
Good choice.
Comes is the analog of Jimmy Carter - goofy, incompetent with a head full of incorrect facts.
Beckel is more like Obama - arrogant, bitter and seething with hate.
How about the classic "Che wearing a Che T-Shirt" T-Shirt?
-PJ
He's a Clinton hack with no sense of morals. First class creep. Can't imagine that he even has a job other than a bagger in a grocery store.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why Hannity would be in the same room with him. I have libtard friends, but very few of them would ever warrant my spending free time with them.
I know that Hannity is also ga-ga over his friendship with the the filthy drug dealer and pimp, Calvin Broadus, otherwise known as Snoop Dog Whatever. How Hannity can giggle over his friendship with this punk Broadus and Beckel is beyond me.
No truer words can be "you're known by the company you keep."
I can’t stand Beckel. He never really does anything but ridicule the conservatives he’s on with. Never says anything of substance. On the 5 show the other day when they were talking about the union thug calling everyone SOBs his only retort was how HORRIBLE it was that some conservatives call BO a Socialist. He is just an inch away from being the ED Shultz of FOX. Can’t watch him, but sometimes I like watching the other guests when he’s on.
PERFECT!
I really dislike Beckel. I only watch the show when Guilfoyl is on. She is hawt.
Maybe Beckel and Jane Fonda can get together for a walk down Che memory lane.
Wow, whereabouts? I was assigned to the 2nd ACR in Nuremberg from '89 to '92. We were responsible for the Czechoslovak border and East Germany up to Fulda.
If the nuclear missiles had remained,we would
have fired them against the heart of the U.S.
including New York City. The victory of socialism
is worth millions of atomic victims.”
— Che Guevara to the London Daily Worker,
November, 1962
“The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have conserved their racial purity by a lack of affinity with washing, have seen their patch invaded by a different kind of slave: The Portuguese. These two races now share a common experience, fraught with bickering and squabbling. Discrimination, and poverty unite them in a daily battle for survival but their different attitudes to life separate them completely: the black is indolent and fanciful, he spends his money on frivolity and drink; the European comes from a tradition of working and saving which follows him to this corner of America and drives him to get ahead, even independently, of his own individual aspirations.”Source: Jon Lee Anderson, "Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life."
Beckel or Colmes ?
For me, the edge goes to Colmes. They are both ignorant and un-educable, but you can tell when Beckel really doesn’t believe what he is spouting. He has a sense of humor. Colmes is juvenile and a Jonestown Kool-Aider to the max.
Eddie Haskell would hate Colmes. Colmes is just smarmy and nauseating. Nor have I ever heard him say anything incisive, clever or interesting.
How about the un-Five: Beckel, Colmes, Bill Press, Nina Totenberg, and Ariana Huffington - and on the sub bench Carville, Begalla, Katrina vandenHeuvel and Mika Brezinski ( just for the eye rolls and condescending smirks).
I could go on, but I feel a hurl coming on. Tooo late
Beckel makes the show unwatchable. Gutfeld helps but not enough to outweigh that douchebag.
I dont need proof to execute a man, snapped Che to a judicial toady in 1959. I only need proof that its necessary.
How progressives think and Beckel is one of them.
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