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The 9/11 victims America wants to forget: The 200 jumpers who flung themselves from the Twin Towers
Daily Mail ^ | 9/9/11 | Tom Leonard

Posted on 09/09/2011 6:26:42 PM PDT by Nachum

Almost all of them jumped alone, although eyewitnesses talked of a couple who held hands as they fell. One woman, in a final act of modesty, appeared to be holding down her skirt. Others tried to make parachutes out of curtains or tablecloths, only to have them wrenched from their grip by the force of their descent. The fall was said to take about ten seconds. It would vary according to the body position and how long it took to reach terminal velocity — around 125mph in most cases, but if someone fell head down with their body straight, as

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911jumpers; america; fallingman; islam; religionbashing; respectdannyh; tenthanniversary911; victims; wants
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To: momtothree
My reaction when I saw people were jumping was to think, how bad is it that jumping is a better option. I like to think that God was there with these people and understood their decision. None of these people would have committed suicide by choice. There were no good choices. Evil had left them with only bad choices, and certain death either way.

I watched a 9/11 special last weekend and was surprised that I was just as upset watching it ten years later as I was that horrible day, as I sat on my couch in the Seattle area weeping as I watched the buildings fall, knowing that a lot of people were dying a horrible death.

121 posted on 09/09/2011 7:58:04 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: momtothree

The British novelist Ian McEwan (who’s become quite famous since) wrote a beautiful piece on
9/11 soon after it happened.I think it was from the Guardian on the 15th but I can’t post the link because something is hijacking my google searches and bringing them to some ‘sponsored links’. I think it was called Only love and then oblivion. You can get it by googling Ian McEwan 9-11


122 posted on 09/09/2011 8:00:13 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Nachum

I am glad they are being remembered, I just wish the media would be more dignified.


123 posted on 09/09/2011 8:01:15 PM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: LibertarianLiz

You know what’s odd is, I’ve never cried over 9/11. I’m too angry to cry. All I feel about it is rage rage rage rage rage rage rage.


124 posted on 09/09/2011 8:02:09 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: LibsRJerks
God help me when i have thoughts like this.

Me Too.

125 posted on 09/09/2011 8:03:52 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

“I don’t want them forgotten. I want them avenged.”

My sentiments exactly.

There was a similar line in the movie “Red Dawn” when Harry Dean Stanton was going to be executed with other captured US citizens, by the Communists.

He cried out. “Avenge me, son. Avenge me.”

We cannot bring back our dead but we can kill the enemy in spades so that there are no more American victims.

However, we need a president who is an American commander, not a Marxist community organizer and coward. We will have to wait until Nov. 6, 2012, and then take off the gloves.

AVENGE ME!!

from Sherlock Holmes: “REVANCHE”


126 posted on 09/09/2011 8:05:17 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Nachum
America chose to ignore them? Wrong.

Those skid marks on Journalism's shorts who call themselves "reporters" and "journalists" did it.

127 posted on 09/09/2011 8:05:40 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Huck

God bless those people,,, but screw this damned Brit writer.

He says;
“But there are other, more complicated, reasons. In the aftermath of this attack on America’s sovereign territory — a period of intense patriotism — some considered that to choose to die rather than be killed showed a lack of courage.
And in this country of intense religious fervour, many believe that to be a ‘jumper’ was to choose suicide rather than accept the fate of God — and suicide in whatever circumstances is considered shameful or, indeed, a sin that will send you to Hell.”

I have NEVER heard anyone,,,EVER call them unpatriotic, or shameful, sinful for jumping, or Hellbound.
This article is a stinking pile of crap.
I defy ANYONE to stand fast in the presence of a 1000 degree fire. Find me a single person who can stand directly on a 500 degree cast iron skillet,,,WTC was **twice** that. In WWI pilots routinely jumped from burning planes before parachutes were carried.
It wasn’t some Zen-like empowerment decision to choose death in the way they wanted.
It wasn’t *pretty intense heat* or *a lot of smoke*.
It was a blast furnace,, floors reaching 500, 600, 700 degrees. It was nearly literally burning alive. It was NO air,, none. It was mass murder by the Islamic religion that Britons are so in love with.

How dare this British ba$tard imply that it was any form of a choice? And i defy him to provide an example of anyone in America publically calling them “unpatriotic”.
I call BS on his claims.


128 posted on 09/09/2011 8:05:45 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Oh, I am angry about what happened to a lot of innocent people. It was just that moment. I knew those buildings were filled with people who had just arrived at work and were sitting down at their desks only to have a large plane come crashing into their building. I knew that there had not been enough time for everyone to get out of those buildings. I knew that they were filled with police and firefighters. And I felt anguish when the buildings fell, and I felt that because of the people who were dying, in real time, on my t.v. screen.

At that particular moment, I was weeping for the people in those buildings. Intense anger followed when I learned what caused those deaths. And, that anger has not abated.

129 posted on 09/09/2011 8:07:58 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: wideawake

She didn’t call it suicide, she was voicing her thoughts on what they might be thinking as they were contemplating their options. Don’t be so quick to go on the attack.


130 posted on 09/09/2011 8:08:04 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: al baby

kinda lovely poster yourself there, al baby. The entire tenor of that post was kind, loving and thoughtful. Too bad it interfered with what YOU think is right.

There are people, practicing orthodox Catholics particularly, who believe that suicide under any circumstances is ‘suicide.’ In the face of the burning inferno, some chose to jump from 90 or more stories up. Someone of that very strong conviction might have thought that jumping, even under those circumstances, was ‘suicide,’ and could theoretically not go to heaven. It’s not an unreasonable or unkind thought for an orthodox Catholic to have.


131 posted on 09/09/2011 8:10:06 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: Huck

In 9/11,,, this Brit finds that AMERICANS brought religious fervor into the equation. The A-hole,,,


132 posted on 09/09/2011 8:10:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I concur.


133 posted on 09/09/2011 8:10:29 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Graybeard58

Yes, that sin would be rejecting Jesus Christ.


134 posted on 09/09/2011 8:12:01 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: PghBaldy
I am glad they are being remembered, I just wish the media would be more dignified.

Agreed, the folks above the first impact are the ones who I can't get out of my head (whether they were forced to jump or not). One minute they were at work or in eating or whatever, likely thinking about the mundane things we all think about - then they are rocked by the huge explosion.

Then they realize they are OK and have survived the impact - only to see hope drip away a drop at a time while the heat and flames slowly overtook them.

I remember one of the documentaries saying that there were like 4 calls from one of the victims, the first concerned but hopeful, the second agitated that they couldn't get an answer about a rescue plan, the third very frightened, and the fourth basically a fairwell.
135 posted on 09/09/2011 8:12:01 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: plain talk

It also omits the fact that the terrorists who perpetrated this horror expected to get to Heaven per THEIR religion.


136 posted on 09/09/2011 8:13:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: LibertarianLiz

I’m not criticizing your response or anything. I was just musing aloud that I went from 0-to-rage with no intermittent stops even to grieve. Although I do well up when I watch World Trade Center (with Nicolas Cage). The minute that piano music starts, man...


137 posted on 09/09/2011 8:13:36 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Nachum

I don’t consider the people that chose to jump as committing suicide. They would have surely died anyway, and they knew it. Not to mention, avoiding a fire/smoke will make people ‘do things’.


138 posted on 09/09/2011 8:20:26 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Nachum
...And in this country of intense religious fervour, many believe that to be a ‘jumper’ was to choose suicide rather than accept the fate of God — and suicide in whatever circumstances is considered shameful or, indeed, a sin that will send you to Hell.

The analysis presented in this article is simply moronic. However it is interesting to see the simple-minded stereotypes that some Europeans apply to America.

139 posted on 09/09/2011 8:23:52 PM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Nachum

Thankyou, Nachum. To the Brits I would say kudos, but it isn’t the Americans who have forgotten, it is the leadership and media.

The rest of us have it seared into our brains.

Despite the hideous PC services and pomp, we remember.

Fly your flags in remembrance, America. God bless the USA.


140 posted on 09/09/2011 8:26:20 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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