Posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey
Broadcast on: MSNBC
Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT
The Candidates:
Michele Bachmann
Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Herman Cain
Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.
Newt Gingrich
Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.
Jon Huntsman
Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.
Ron Paul
Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008
Rick Perry
Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.
Mitt Romney
Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).
Rick Santorum
Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.
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“if you don’t think that teenage girls are having sex”
Look, friend, You referenced 11-12 year old girls, NOT freakin’ teenagers. OK? Are 11-12 yo girls participating in sex, in epidemic proportions? NO!!
I’ll type it one more time.
The vaccine is effective in 11-12yo girls. NOT older girls or women. For it to be effective it has to be administered at that age.
Is that clear?
Girls 15, 16, 17 and 18 ARE participating in sex and this vaccine given to them at 11-12yo is intended to protect them.
Seems simple enough friend.
The vaccine is effective in older girls, you are in err about that.
For the vaccine to be effective it needs to be administered to girls before they have been infected. The most realistic age group is 11-12yo because it is beyond the recommended earliest age of 9yo and hopefully prior to them becoming sexually active.
Once again nothing mystical or magical. Just simple logical thought.
Y’all are all right, the idea is to give the vaccine before exposure, but also to give it at the time when kids are coming in for other shots. They are due a measles shot at 12 and a tetanus booster by 14.
The good news is that the antibody count is higher and the side effects are lower in boys and girls 9-15 than in those older.
And, unfortunately, about a quarter of girls have their first sexual encounter by 15 and half of these girls say they were forced or the sex was against their will.
And now, the rumor is that the vaccine will be offered to older women because we see a second wave of infections with HPV after women are divorced.
Ok. Still don’t like the heavy handed executive order.
Seem simple enough? Take some Tums, man. Relax!
We have a tendency here to undervalue the opponents.
Obomba’s speech was very good from a propangandist’s point of view.
The question is how effective it was. I suspect that to the undecideds it was quite effective.
Simple, simplistic, cliche ridden like Clint Black’s hit songs, and persuasive to the semi-literate mobs.
Don’t forget that this is how the half black Boy won in 2008.
Ignore at your risk.
“Cain’s no wonk, and it’s evident to me.”
By the time he was asked about it (the FNS fumble), he answered well and was even self-deprecating. He’s said before that he doesn’t make the same mistake twice, and he rarely does.
The thing about wonks is that, by definition, they’re experts in a particular area, therefore one-dimensional to varying degrees. Since our economy is in crisis, some have called for Paul Ryan to run (which he wisely declined). He’s a budget whiz, but foreign policy and national security? Not so much, IMO, although I think he’s a good guy.
“but I get the strong impression he’s out of his league. Just my opinion.”
HC’s a quick study - no candidate knows about all minutiae in all areas starting out. And he didn’t get to be CEO over tens of thousands of people, turning a losing company into a winner (same with another large corp.) by being dense.
He’s extremely intelligent, has always had a hungry mind and, most of all, loves America and wants to make it great again (neither of which can be said of BHO). He’s proven himself time and again to be a skillful leader who’s quite good at forming effective teams and choosing excellent folks to surround him. His formal education and resume are impressive, but more importantly, he was raised with solid values - in a stable, loving family - and lots of common sense.
He’d be so good for this country as POTUS, would put together a dynamic team and have all the briefings and intel at hand to make wise decisions.
Time will tell how it goes for him, but we could do a LOT worse. IMO, the only two on that stage who could whip BHO’s a$$ in debate are Newt and Herman (who just needs to keep the confident, firm style that made him such a gifted speaker over the years).
Yes, I think the world of HC, but I’ll work hard for whomever’s our ultimate nominee, and vote to defeat the scourge of BHO. We need the most electable person with the best chance of winning against him. If it turns out not to be Cain, he’d make a brilliant cabinet member (such as Sec. of Commerce) or other high-level appointee.
I pray daily that we win back the White House and, along with a more conservative House and Senate, that the new POTUS will assemble a winning team with all the talent we have to offer. Allen West for Sec. of Defense, John Bolton for Sec. of State. Paul Ryan for Sec. of Treasury. Andrew McCarthy for Atty. Gen or maybe CIA. David Horowitz for Sec. of Education (he’s an outspoken expert on the subversive propaganda fed to our kids K-12 and large universities). He or Robert Spencer would also be great at Homeland Security. Newt’s gifts should be employed in some key position as well.
Yes, we could get America back on the path. But we’ve GOTTA win the WH (and Senate) first to do so.
I don’t think it can possibly support what she ultimately came up with, but why would he support FLOTUS in efforts to reform healthcare in this country. I remember when this all came about and conservatives were incensed that an unelected person married to the President was chairing this effort. Why did Perry write her and Kiss her butt?
LOL!!!
Not so "simple" or "logical" or even great "thought" to me, in light of the FACT that we live in a Republic where this CHOICE belongs to the PEOPLE... not to a GOVERNOR or a SENATOR or a CONGRESS-WEASE. Neither does this decision belong to FLOTUS, TOTUS OR POTUS!
“Shirley Jackson-Lee”
Oops - I guess I killed two birds with one stone, so to speak. (I meant Shirley Jackson and Sheila Jackson-Lee. :-)
Mike - you haven’t issued a challenge worth answering, which is why I’ve ignored it.
Ask me to prove something that requires some real documentation to back up the claim, but quit pestering me about crap that is epidemic on this forum.
A better alternative to Social Security for those younger than 40 is the Chilean model. In Chile, you have the option of government run SS or you can opt to set up your own account in your own name which the government can not spend from, and you have choices of investments supervised by experienced investors.
“We have a tendency here to undervalue the opponents.
Obomba’s speech was very good from a propangandist’s point of view...Ignore at your risk.”
You’re quite right.
That’s why I keep harping on the fact that we’re going to need a truly electable candidate who can best go head to head with the Wan, particularly in debate, and who can win those Independents we need. A decent AND viable candidate will be critical.
There are many reasons we should also be able to take the Senate and keep the House, both of which will be key safeguards for anyone we can get elected to the WH.
You’re right, though - beating BHO is do-able but will be no cakewalk. And we’ll really need unification to turn out the votes in support of our nominee - or divided we fall.
Seriously, Mike. Do you really want me to embarrass you so easily? You've failed to think this through far enough to realize that I'm trying to give you an out.
I'm really not into this. Why not just let it go?
I think I read somewhere else that the Chilean model has been changed. Better Google it for the update. It seems that the current fear of the government is that by having a voluntary aspect, a lot of lower income young people are not going to pay into the system, and will end up in trouble when it is their time to retire. Sounds a little like the Obamacare dilema. Unless insurance is mandatory, not enough people will get it to pay for the system. At least that is the impression I got reading about the new Chilean system.
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