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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #4 - Sep. 7, 2011 8pm/5pm: Reagan Library, CA (MSNBC)
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Posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey

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To: FourtySeven

Good get for Greta!


1,701 posted on 09/07/2011 7:42:15 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Cain is likable. Far more so than any other candidate in the debate.


1,702 posted on 09/07/2011 7:42:30 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: LUV W

Don’t pay any attention to these Perry haters on this thread...Perry did very very well...I know they are disappointed on how well he did do.


1,703 posted on 09/07/2011 7:42:30 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: parksstp

I generally agree with your analysis except to say if Bachmann bows out in the face if a Palin candidacy, most of Bachmann’s support will go to Palin.

IMO.


1,704 posted on 09/07/2011 7:42:32 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Windflier

I think you called it pretty well Windflier. It certainly was better then the first one Fox put up. But more to come and we’ll see how it flies next time.

I was slaying dragons on MSNBC site during this debate. Really fun knocking them down but quite interesting many were checking out the candidates because they will not vote for Obama again. Many didn’t know Santorum or Huntsman , some thought the debate was rigged because Perry and Romney were given so much face time.


1,705 posted on 09/07/2011 7:42:35 PM PDT by caww
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To: erlayman

Utah’s been a safe harbor for him.

Clearly you missed the DYNAMIC portions of my analogy. The Commodore dresses well in port.


1,706 posted on 09/07/2011 7:43:06 PM PDT by bvw
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To: magritte

You haven’t studied the polls of late ’07 and early ’08 have you.


1,707 posted on 09/07/2011 7:43:14 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says about foreign policy, but it is distressing how people thoughtlessly discount his warnings against perpetual international adventures. Paul's warnings are a lot more credible in the light of history. I think people would do well to read Paul Kennedy's Rise and Fall of the Great Powers before they so quickly dismiss Congressman Paul.
1,708 posted on 09/07/2011 7:43:36 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: FourtySeven; everyone
My pleasure. The totals do not reflect fairness but the performances sure did.

Though I'm not a Newt fan he did seem to hit the most home runs.

What was most telling IMO were the poor performances of Huntsman and Santorum.

The rest had ups and downs but overall did fine.

1,709 posted on 09/07/2011 7:43:59 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: rawhide

In a word, any administration with Romney in it makes me just want to barf!

Perry/Cain
Palin/Cain
Palin/Perry

NO Romney...EVER! ok? :)


1,710 posted on 09/07/2011 7:44:10 PM PDT by luvie (Obama is E V I L!!! RUN, SARAH---RUN!!!)
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To: matginzac

I swear she keeps saying Rush will be on. Or maybe I’m hearing things.

This is the second time I swear I heard her say Rush would be on next.

It really may be time for bed. Haha


1,711 posted on 09/07/2011 7:44:57 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: shield

Sharpton is questioning Perrys intelligence and once again brings up “Gahlayo” LOL


1,712 posted on 09/07/2011 7:45:37 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Coldwater Creek

CC, I echo Pallidin...
but how about this...as we need every stinkin’ vote we can get, let’s all tell the Man Upstairs that none of us can leave until the damage is un-done and have Him cancel our reservations, eh?
Prayers to you...


1,713 posted on 09/07/2011 7:45:44 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: Coldwater Creek

Absolute ZERO chance that Gov. Palin will run 3rd Party. She is not a nut. Read Going Rogue, and after a few pages, you’ll know that this is a zany notion. She HAS warned that OTHERS might want to run if the nominee is not true to Constitutional principles. But it WON’T be her! Bob


1,714 posted on 09/07/2011 7:45:55 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: MagUSNRET

Haha sorry!

Amen sister!


1,715 posted on 09/07/2011 7:46:25 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: SoldierDad

Indeed, that is THE bottom line! :)


1,716 posted on 09/07/2011 7:46:35 PM PDT by luvie (Obama is E V I L!!! RUN, SARAH---RUN!!!)
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To: Palladin

Thanks, I have perfect peace that my God is in control.


1,717 posted on 09/07/2011 7:47:01 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: rawhide

Nope.

Take it to the bank, Rubio will be on the Perry ticket (as long as they get the whole N.B.C. thing settled out). That would be an electoral landslide. FL, OH, IA, and NM go red.

Now if Rubio is ineligible, I think the next logical choice is to go after a “reformer” with a record of creating jobs. I think Scott Walker would be a very interesting pick. Haley of SC would be an interesting pick too, but they might try to throw the comparisons back to Palin on her. In anycase, I think the running mate should be a Gov versus a Senator/Congressman.


1,718 posted on 09/07/2011 7:47:22 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: FourtySeven

Greta’s warming up with Trump, who should challenge Steve Wyn for the Democrat nomination


1,719 posted on 09/07/2011 7:47:44 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: ElPatriota

I’ll answer. Not really a Perry fan, but a Texan who knows.

Perry has annoyed and double-crossed me repeatedly, and I don’t like him. But I will support him. I do believe he can do the job. And he has a backbone.

He is conservative. Toss all the garbage about him supporting Al Gore years ago. Most Texas politicians were dems back then. Simply not an issue.

He’s walked the walk for years as a social conservative, pro-family, pro-life. He’s one of us.

What he didn’t say tonight — and probably should have — is that Texas has massive problems that other states don’t because of illegal immigration. It’s a mistake to be too critical of Perry on the issue, because it’s complicated, very much so, and he knows the nuances of the difficulties first-hand.

He gets lumps for saying he doesn’t favor a fence on the Texas border. There are excellent reasons for that, including terrain, all the land it would take from property owners, the impracticality of it. If you don’t know the Texas border — as most of his critics on the subject don’t — you can’t understand that he understands the problem and offers better ideas.

Much of Texas has been largely Mexican since we were an independent nation. We have heroes of our Revolution who fought Mexico and whose descendants still live here. Therefore, most true Texans know good hispanics who are fine neighbors and friends. Frankly, so are many hard-working but law-breaking illegals who live among us, their kids citizens. They shouldn’t be here, but neither are we allowed to send them home.

What would I do if my home was overrun with drug gangs and I wanted a safe place for my kids to grow up? Would I pack up and sneak in and take any work I could get to survive?

We also know that the current illegal situation is causing massive problems and that state government’s hands are largely tied by Washington on the matter. We have to serve the illegals, have to educate them, get no help but have their poverty and illiteracy held against us.

Perry knows more than most that these are difficult questions, and he knows what is needed in Washington to stop the inflow and solve the border state problems. You heard his anger with Obama in the “liar” comment tonight.

He is better informed and equipped to deal with illegal immigration than any other candidate on the stage tonight. But all the power — and roadblocks — are in Washington.

Keep your mind open about Perry.


1,720 posted on 09/07/2011 7:47:46 PM PDT by Jedidah
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