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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #4 - Sep. 7, 2011 8pm/5pm: Reagan Library, CA (MSNBC)
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Posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: MSNBC

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.

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To: llandres
- each candidate had to have polled at least 5% at some point in order to be invited to this debate.

PMSNBC lowered the bar to 4% for this debate just so they could get Huntsman.

1,601 posted on 09/07/2011 7:19:33 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: MestaMachine

LOL!!!


1,602 posted on 09/07/2011 7:20:05 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: CynicalBear

Nah, it will be discussed because it will be part of Thursday’s news cycle.

Tomorrow’s coverage will overwhelmingly be about how bad Obama’s speech was earlier in the evening.


1,603 posted on 09/07/2011 7:20:20 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: GraceG

Interesting thoughts about Cain...I haven’t made up my mind about him yet, but I sure know I’d choose him over Perry or Mitt! :)


1,604 posted on 09/07/2011 7:20:34 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege (Palin 2012)
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To: LibertyRocks

[ I’m a cervical cancer survivor. I don’t want ANY government agent telling me what I must or must not do when it comes to my health. PERIOD. I don’t care how “wonderful” they think a vaccination is - medical care decisions belong between a doctor and a patient and should NOT involve the government in any way, shape, or form. ]

Herman Cain is a cancer survivor too, I would have liked to hear his response, stupid MSNBC.


1,605 posted on 09/07/2011 7:20:49 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: kara2008

I think you have a pretty good take on the various performances. Santorum was among the weaker group.


1,606 posted on 09/07/2011 7:21:07 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SteveAustin
The guy I liked the best was Herman Cain. Damn I wish he were a more viable candidate.

My thoughts on Cain as well. But as long as he's still in, I'm going to support him and not concede that he can't get the nomination. I don't want to be a self-fulfilling prophesy.

1,607 posted on 09/07/2011 7:21:08 PM PDT by Drrdot
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
They’re not only attacking Perry, they’re savaging him and he told the truth about SS.

As well they should. Let us see if Perry can survive being unfairly attacked for months on end so we can learn if he is "damaged goods" or not. It'll do him good to have the media heaping scorn and ridicule on him. SNL should get into the act as well. Oh and Jon Stewart, too. We need to find out just how tough his supporters really are.

1,608 posted on 09/07/2011 7:21:14 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: McLynnan
LOL, but will he interrupt a golf weekend at Camp David to do a flyover of the Hill Country?Only if Barton Creek didn't burn....
1,609 posted on 09/07/2011 7:21:14 PM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: TaraP
Perry did very well. I am impressed with his ability to debate. And I liked it that he did not have polished, pat answers for all the questions; you were able to see how he thinks, and you want to know how your president thinks so you have a clue about how he will approach policy and problems.

And he consistently says that he will make government as inconsequential to Americans lives as he is able to make it. I like that! I want to hear someone say that, because that is precisely what we want and need in a president. Keep the government off our backs, and get out of our way.

I love being free and responsible.

1,610 posted on 09/07/2011 7:21:25 PM PDT by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: MestaMachine
lol! That's a fair assessment. I like Bachmann but she does need a new catch phrase.

As for Ricardo being good on the death penalty -- with his 'vision of open borders' he had better be.

1,611 posted on 09/07/2011 7:21:28 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Yep, me too. The other thing that creeps me out is how quickly the media has embraced him as the one who will win the nomination... It very eerily reminds me of McCain - whom I thought had NO CHANCE of getting the nomination after his support of LaRaza. I have a feeling that our candidate has already been picked — unless of course Sarah steps in... Then, IMHO, all bets are off and even their best-laid plans may be for naught! I’m seriously wondering whether Sarah is going to bypass all the problems with the GOP and declare as an independent...


1,612 posted on 09/07/2011 7:21:34 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

I guess that you didn’t hear Perry’s reply that anyone could opt out.


1,613 posted on 09/07/2011 7:21:41 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: nhwingut

Agreed.


1,614 posted on 09/07/2011 7:22:00 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Please spare me the concerned poster scam.

You have been trash talking Perry from the start.

No one falls the for the concerned act !

1,615 posted on 09/07/2011 7:22:10 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

[ I do, too. Newt knows how to refocus the debate, and he’s not shy about it. He schooled the Telemundo guy on exactly what Reagan’s position was re amnesty. He really rises to the occasion for these debates. (I know he’s a RINO.) ]

I would make Newt the WH spokesdroid.

He would be far better than Carnival Barker Carnie.


1,616 posted on 09/07/2011 7:22:10 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: bvw

Lol. Oh, yeah, Governor. How did you amass a heap of accomplishments and top level government positions ? Luck and floating through life. There is obviously something un-anchored about advocating for many of the same policies that took Utah to number one in the nation in job creation. Actually I can’t imagine actually anymore MORE focused on the need for serious, pragmatic, long-term solutions than Jon Huntsman.


1,617 posted on 09/07/2011 7:22:31 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: NautiNurse; Ron C.; StarFan; STARWISE; stanz; Exit148; DollyCali
Thank you NautiNurse, for the TV network debate info, and thank you Ron C. for the MSNBC live streaming link.

We're on a short vacation on the Maine coast and our hotel - which has a very impressive list of TV channels - does not have MSNBC (LOL). Fortunately we we have a good WiFi connection so we were able to watch the entire debate online.

I didn't think Perry came across as strong and prepared as I expected, but my husband thought he did fine. I liked Newt's responses the best in tonight's debate, although I still think he has too much baggage to be elected President.

1,618 posted on 09/07/2011 7:22:57 PM PDT by nutmeg (...just another terrorist, SOB tea-partyin' Hobbit)
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To: LA Woman3

Fact is he just doesn’t love us. We talk funny, etc.! I’m off here for the night. Talk soon!


1,619 posted on 09/07/2011 7:23:02 PM PDT by McLynnan (When Will Obama Visit the Texas Wildfire Devastation and Show He Cares?)
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To: Hoodat
and Santorum so that they can show Republicans as radical family values freaks.

What is wrong, by the way, with being a "fanatical family values freak"?

1,620 posted on 09/07/2011 7:23:17 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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