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To: CA Conservative

Now the died in the wool “Conservatives” here are proud to spout Democrat polls in support of their candidate. Wow.

Don’t forget folks, he’s not a RINO even if his people are perfectly comfortable tapping Democrat polls to support him.


9 posted on 08/30/2011 9:52:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 yr right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep. The Perry Pimps are busy today again I see.


12 posted on 08/30/2011 9:55:17 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep. Amazing, isn’t it.


16 posted on 08/30/2011 9:58:19 AM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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To: DoughtyOne; subterfuge

So what you are saying is that who does the poll is more important than the polls accuracy?


18 posted on 08/30/2011 9:59:23 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Don’t forget folks, he’s not a RINO even if his people are perfectly comfortable tapping Democrat polls to support him.

Well, since all of the polls to come out lately, regardless of their political leaning, are showing large Perry leads, it is hard to dismiss them as being somehow "tainted" because this one comes from a Dem polling outfit. Now, if polling groups like Gallup and Rasmussen were showing Perry trailing badly, and we were touting a PPP poll that showed Perry in the lead, you might have a point. As it is, it just sounds like sour grapes because your candidate is stuck at around 10%.

I actually find it interesting that Perry's number stays at 36% whether Palin is included or not. It appears that Palin pulls from Romney and Bachmann, but not from Perry, at least in this poll. Very interesting...

19 posted on 08/30/2011 9:59:47 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: DoughtyOne
PPP surveyed 750 usual South Carolina Republican primary voters from August 25th to 28th. The margin of error for the survey is +/-3.6%. This poll was not paid for or authorized by any campaign or political organization. PPP surveys are conducted through automated telephone interviews. PPP is a Democratic polling company, but polling expert Nate Silver of the New York Times found that its surveys in 2010 actually exhibited a slight bias toward Republican candidates.

I agree to not trust any polls. That is why I always read the methodology and sample. I can't find any issues here and it seems to be in line with other polling on the subject. If you also read through the questions, they are straight forward. I don't see were the bias is if they are promoting Perry for some reason.

20 posted on 08/30/2011 10:00:20 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Don’t forget folks, he’s not a RINO even if his people are perfectly comfortable tapping Democrat polls to support him.”

Do you have any other polls that show someone else leading?


23 posted on 08/30/2011 10:01:24 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: DoughtyOne

I only wish we had had a RINO like Perry at the helm for the last two and one half years instead of what we have now!

15000 Dow, 5% economic growth, unemployment 6% and falling fast! Borders secured! Iran nuclear weapons program dead in the water! On and on and on! DAMN what a mess that would be!


34 posted on 08/30/2011 10:09:19 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: DoughtyOne
Definition of DOUGHTY
: marked by fearless resolution : valiant

Should read:

Doughy:
adj : having the consistency of dough because of insufficient leavening or improper cooking; "the cake fell; it's a doughy mess" [syn: soggy]

46 posted on 08/30/2011 10:14:28 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Don’t forget folks, he’s not a RINO even if his people are perfectly comfortable tapping Democrat polls to support him.

It's understood that you don't like Perry, but I've got news for you; it's not only "Democrat polls" that show him completely dominating the field. It's ALL polls (left, right, non-partisan), from ALL sources, across nearly ALL demographics - young/old, rich/poor, North/South etc.

Perry takes national double-digit lead among GOP frontrunners (Gallup - Aug, 2011)

Perry takes national double-digit lead among GOP frontrunners (Ramussen - Aug, 2011)

Perry takes national double-digit lead among GOP frontrunners (PPP - Aug, 2011)

Perry takes national double-digit lead among GOP frontrunners (CNN - Aug, 2011)

Perry takes national double digit lead in 5 separate polls (NYT - Aug, 2011)

Perry leads GOP contenders in IOWA (PPP - Aug, 2011)

Perry leads GOP contenders in South Carolina (Magellan - Aug, 2011)

Perry leads GOP contenders by 22 points among Tea Party supporters (Gallup - Aug, 2011)

Perry led GOP contenders in North Carolina and Virginia BEFORE he declared candidacy

Only 12% of Republicans and GOP leaning independents hold a negative view of Perry (AP/GfK - Aug, 2011)

Perry beating Obama in Florida (Magellan Data - Aug, 2011)

Perry and Obama tied nationally (Gallup - Aug, 2011)

Perry and Obama in statistical dead heat (Rasmussen - Aug, 2011)

Obama 50%, Palin 33% (Rasmussen - Aug, 2011)

41% of GOP primary voters and two thirds of all registered voters say there is no chance they would vote for Sarah Palin (Pew - Aug, 2011)

65 posted on 08/30/2011 10:20:06 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: DoughtyOne; CA Conservative

Keep in mind that Rasmussen owns accuracy in polling and has the history to prove it. Perry shines in Rasmussen polling also. As for PPP, this poll was simply an interesting aside, because it does rather follow the obvious—that Rick Perry rocks. Everywhere.

Is it going to be “fun” to be the front runner? Usually, not. With Rick, however, this will be fun!


76 posted on 08/30/2011 10:24:16 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m not seeing this that way. Sorry. I’m seeing it as a “look, another nail in the coffin.” sort of thing. How accurate is this source normally? I don’t care if they are biased as long as it is factored in. Everyone’s biased.


85 posted on 08/30/2011 10:29:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: DoughtyOne

“Now the died in the wool “Conservatives” here are proud to spout Democrat polls in support of their candidate. Wow.”

And anti-Perry “conservatives” here have had no problem spouting Democrat commentary critizing him. Wow.


155 posted on 08/30/2011 11:09:48 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: DoughtyOne

Isn’t the template that the RAT media wants Romney to be the nominee? How does this help that?


187 posted on 08/30/2011 12:01:57 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: DoughtyOne

The problem for conservatives of all stripes is when it dawns on them that what they’re reading really could be correct.

What do you do if Perry really is leading?

What do you do if he really does become the nominee?


251 posted on 08/30/2011 1:35:05 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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