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To: onyx

IF she runs she might have my support. I doubt the maturity and the intellectual capacity of anyone that latches on to one (non)candidate this early in the process and claims that no other will do.

I for one like 3 candidates and two possible future candidates. several could drop out or be forced out and I would still have someone to vote for.

Excluding as inadequate someone just because they are not named Sarah is childish in my view, but just to let the reader know, she is one of the two non-candidates on my list. I am seriously looking at (in no particular order);

Bachmann

Cain

Santorum

Palin and Perry

Not really interested in any of the rest, but I’d be satisfied with just about any of the names on that list over Mitt Romney, John Huntsman, Newt Gingrich or Ron Paul. Paul was actually on my list until he basically said in the debate that Iran could have nukes. To me it’s the same as saying “Hey that Hitler feller ain’t so bad.”


8 posted on 08/13/2011 8:27:24 AM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: Grunthor
Paul was actually on my list until he basically said in the debate that Iran could have nukes.

Yeah, me too. The irony of it all is that Paul was actually just being honest, from the USA's point of view anyway. Because the USA will do nothing to stop Iran from having nukes, and everybody knows it. And by doing nothing, that's pretty much like saying it's OK.

But saying it so openly was a mistake. It's always good to keep your enemy guessing as much as possible.

12 posted on 08/13/2011 8:36:51 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Grunthor

Ron Paul is a libertarian, a mere smidge above anarchist. I could possibly stand Paul as president, thought after watching the debate, I doubt it. The problem with Libertarians is that they want anarchy to satisfy their warped sense of “freedom.” (”If it feels good, do it.”)

While I have never been libertarian, I formerly didn’t mind them as much as many on FR. Their recital lines sound great, but when asked in depth, they crumble, and we saw it first hand in the last debate.

I like Cain, have mixed feelings about Santorum, and haven’t seen (or learned) enough of Bachmann, but probably would prefer she remain in the House if she’s doing as much as she says she is. She certainly took a lot of criticism (in a first class manner) from Pawlenty who looked like a total horse’s rear end to me. She seems like a stand up lady, and I like that, so we’ll see about her I guess.

As Mrs. Palin has not yet stated that she’s running, I find it hard to endorse her to a position she is not officially looking for and I don’t like counting my chickens before they hatch. I was unimpressed with Huntsman, but did not aprove of him as governor (I voted against him), and was not impressed with Romney’s doublespeak (and never been). Newt Gingrich hasn’t a snowball’s chance, so I think that’s everyone who’s running for now.

So far I’m with you, Cain, possibly Bachman, maybe Santorum. I wish we could have someone who is a combination of the best partsnof West’s attitude and dedication, Cain’s business knowledge, Bachmann’s morals, Palin’s Leadership and Paul’s monetary system (NOT all of his financial policies, disclaimer). But alas, there are no perfect candidates running.


15 posted on 08/13/2011 8:46:08 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Grunthor

I had high hopes for Huntsman.

Spending as much on the ground time as he has in the Peoples Republic of China, he was potentially in a unique position to understand (and drive American responses to) the blatantly uneven trade situation which is threatening America’s future.

But it seems he instead, bought into the bullcarp China-hugging idea that it’s all just a matter of understanding and “openness”.

It’s not a misunderstanding. China understands completely, and intends to bury us. We lack the political will to stand up for American interests. It’s that simple.

China certainly is advancing China’s interests.

Ironically, so are many Americans.

NOBODY is looking out for the United States.


19 posted on 08/13/2011 8:48:15 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: Grunthor

Grunthor,

I have no problem with you having 3 candidates your looking at and I don’t even care if one were Obama because that is your undeniable privledge as an American.

That said, I do have a problem with your “numbers game”, as expressed in your post, to wit;.....I basically am only interested in “1” candidate, Sarah Palin,..............you are interested in “3”..........so, according to you, this makes you a “mature intellectual” and me, and people like me, “dumbasses” (or, as you put it....”doubtful in maturity and intellect”.

Is your name Axelrod, Pelosi, Reid, Frank or Schumer? I say this only to make the point that people like them very publicly and almost daily are, like you, insulting the intellect and maturity of those that dare to support other candidates. And, in the case of Sarah Palin, their kids, grandkids, accent, voice tone, clothing, alma mater etc; etc;


22 posted on 08/13/2011 8:55:05 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Grunthor

Well said. Strategically speaking Santorum as a VP with Perry would carry PA.I think we have Ohio,NC,Florida if we snatch PA Obama is toast. Just sayin... as everyone always discounts Santorum. But we do not know if Obama will have moveon.org stealing votes or not. Obama won in military towns that NEVER go to a dem so he cheated like hell.


24 posted on 08/13/2011 8:57:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (S&P wasn't worried about us not lifting the debt ceiling - they are worried about the spending)
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To: Grunthor

“I doubt the maturity and the intellectual capacity of anyone that latches on to one (non)candidate this early in the process and claims that no other will do” It must get lonely up in your ivory tower looking down on all of us inferior beings who happen to believe in Sara Palin.Be careful you may get permanently cross eyed looking down your nose.If she decides not to run then we have a large field from which to choose.Having said that,if she decides not to run then I will get back to you and YOU can tell me whom I’m to support.sheesh.


34 posted on 08/13/2011 9:09:43 AM PDT by hwkbeer (I will pursue my enemy and not stop till I consume him.)
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To: Grunthor
"Excluding as inadequate someone just because they are not named Sarah is childish in my view..."

because they are not named Sarah???!!!!!???

You asked for it, Grunty. C'mon.

Based upon their repeatedly proven records of actual accomplishment, who besides Palin can you trust to shrink the size of government, shrink government spending, and prosecute and jail the felons who preceded them?

To truly fully restore America, we need all three. Name the other one or two besides Palin who have done this. Okay, just name one. In fact, I don't want to encourage anyone to lie, so don't name any.

That's why we want Palin. To restore America, our system, and most of all, our faith in the system." There is no second choice with a proven track record of being able to do that.

73 posted on 08/13/2011 10:24:07 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Our little pit bull says 'Taste my nightstick!',,, A barracuda in a skin-tight skirt.")
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To: Grunthor
I doubt the maturity and the intellectual capacity of anyone that latches on to one (non)candidate this early in the process and claims that no other will do.

Unnecessary baiting. You just intentionally slapped every staunch Palin supporter across the face with that statement.

Are you looking to start a flame war on this thread, or did you not stop to consider that many here would be offended by that remark?

102 posted on 08/13/2011 11:11:42 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Grunthor
I doubt the maturity and the intellectual capacity of anyone that latches on to one (non)candidate this early in the process and claims that no other will do.

What's to doubt? Their mental acumen goes no further than American Idol and incessantly claiming that others have "PDS". I'd also wager that a sizable percentage of them reside in trailer parks.

107 posted on 08/13/2011 11:18:19 AM PDT by jla
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