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1 posted on 08/02/2011 2:19:50 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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” It’s not a 100% pure genuine victory. We just handed the most liberal president, I believe, in U.S. history a $2.4 billion debt increase.” … “

It is a 100% pure E P I C F A I L


2 posted on 08/02/2011 2:22:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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Oh, good grief. Are people that damned dense?


3 posted on 08/02/2011 2:22:55 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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yes, without the tea party it would be bleaker

but i wonder what the future holds.


4 posted on 08/02/2011 2:24:03 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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Will Palin now become persona non grata at FR? Hmmmm? Will the accusations of "RINO!" now fly her way? This ought to be fun to watch.
6 posted on 08/02/2011 2:26:23 PM PDT by BfloGuy (There is no remedy for the inefficiency of public management. -- L. Von Mises)
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It’s a thousand times worse. 2.4 trillion.


8 posted on 08/02/2011 2:27:14 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Stuck with a local RINO? Regardless of who you vote for, donate $$$ to a different district.)
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proving that conservative activists had shifted the conversation in Washington.

Well I don't think I would classify shifting a conversation as a victory but in that respect she is right, the debt would have never been an issue if not for the TP.

We still have much work to do, don't think we have enough time though.

9 posted on 08/02/2011 2:27:30 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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Bachmann voted against the Debt Ceiling, Palin sees it as a positive. How the Republican electorate ends up viewing the deal will determine which will carry the consevative wing.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 2:27:37 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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It was no win for Conservatives today no matter how you slice/spin it..

"I got a new credit card today... naw,naw,naw,naw...
now I'm going shopping..."


11 posted on 08/02/2011 2:28:15 PM PDT by avacado
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This is as much of a victory we can hope for in 2011. The GOP controls one half of one branch of government. Now, in 2012 and 2013 on the other hand, we can hope for much more.


12 posted on 08/02/2011 2:29:13 PM PDT by MetaThought
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It’s only a victory in that (imho) Obama and the Democrats set an artificial deadline to create a crisis so they would have an excuse to raise taxes.

The fact that the conversation was all focused on cutting spending was a victory for the tea party, a small one, but still a victory.

OTOH, the actual deal is still awful. It just raised the debt ceiling, officially added another 7 trillion dollars to the debt, and gave Obama a blank check to play with until after the election. Hardly a victory in that sense.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 2:30:11 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain knows computers, math, missiles, banking, burgers, pizza, gospel music, & Coca-Cola)
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In this case, Palin is wrong.


15 posted on 08/02/2011 2:30:32 PM PDT by Jemian
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When the dims couldn't get Obamacare through the Senate because of the election of Brown, they got it done anyway. When Cap and Trade failed, Obama turned to imposing it through the EPA carbon regulation. Dims don't take no for answer. Moral victories that change the conversation don't seem to interest them. Like some morons in the WSJ commented to today, “this government was designed to operate slowly”. Yeah, unless you're a commie Leftist like Barry and company. Rules are rules for chumps and Republicans.
18 posted on 08/02/2011 2:32:20 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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19 posted on 08/02/2011 2:34:16 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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Cannot believe Palin said that. Sad.


21 posted on 08/02/2011 2:36:37 PM PDT by mulligan
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it’s MRS. assholes


35 posted on 08/02/2011 2:44:12 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now, and in the future)
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I did not see the interview live so I just went back and watched it on Youtube. She did say that but taken alone it sounds bad. If you go and watch the whole interview you will see she thinks it’s a bad deal just as we do and only thinks the tea party was a winner because they changed the whole debate. Nice try though.


36 posted on 08/02/2011 2:45:00 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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Yes, the “Tea Party” got their defense cuts.... Hooray!!


49 posted on 08/02/2011 2:56:21 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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Palin was correct. This is a big victory for the Tea Party. Spending cuts with no tax increases. Cuts to the Democrat’s favorite socialist programs like Medicare.

It’s a huge political victory for conservatives too. Obama’s approval rating has plunged, and is now lower than at any time during his presidency.

Now we just elect a Tea Party president and Senate next year, then finish the job with the rest of the spending cuts.


61 posted on 08/02/2011 3:05:42 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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We won the issue

The deal is a bad deal all around


66 posted on 08/02/2011 3:14:29 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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8/1/2011 8:18:00 AM
In America, a grassroots oxygen

Richard Moore
Investigative Reporter

If you believe the headlines in the mainstream media these past few weeks, you have to believe the country is on the verge of collapse.

Not only will default on the nation’s debt wreck the economy, if it happens, but Washington’s political stalemate is an example of the complete dysfunction of the American political system, the pundits and reporters tell us.

According to this analysis, we are witnessing the breakdown of governance itself. The American political system is on the brink, and no one has wanted to wink.

It’s all so much nonsense. I’ve addressed the economic consequences of default before - or the lack thereof - but now let’s take a look at this so-called collapse of American democracy and political institutions.

No matter how the debt talks turn out (or have turned out), what we have witnessed is not the collapse of governance, but the first serious challenge to an entrenched establishment in decades. What we have witnessed is not the obstinance of ideologues, but the courage of the principled.

http://lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=10&SubSectionID=68&ArticleID=13549&TM=63552.84


73 posted on 08/02/2011 3:19:20 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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