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To: Sub-Driver

I know this won’t be popular here, but isn’t this what Obama fears? The GOP controls 1/4 of the government at the moment, (counting just the executive and legislative branches).

Assume Boehner’s plan passes.

- The GOP looks more reasonable, in bending to avoid default.

- Obama will have to go through this one more time before the 2012 election.

Both things could lead to enough gains that real reform could be possible.

Sometimes pragmatism isn’t all bad.


18 posted on 07/27/2011 8:25:35 AM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: brownsfan

That is true.

We ALL do it...want the full loaf now. Also, there are plenty of reasons NOT to be pragmatic, but you have to look at this the right way.

As I said earlier in the thread, I challenge ONE Freeper to become a Representative and get a bill passed! It’s harder than we think it is behind our keyboards.


26 posted on 07/27/2011 8:29:27 AM PDT by RockinRight (If we're "teabaggers" then they're "d-baggers.")
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To: brownsfan
Assume Boehner’s plan passes.
- The GOP looks more reasonable, in bending to avoid default.
- Obama will have to go through this one more time before the 2012 election.
Both things could lead to enough gains that real reform could be possible.
Sometimes pragmatism isn’t all bad.

I agree. This is not the time to go for the whole enchilada. We have to get rid of Obama and the Dem majority in the Senate first. Like it or not, we cannot afford to lose a PR battle at this time and we cannot let the dems continue to ruin the economy. We have to take what we can get now and get the rest after 2012.

31 posted on 07/27/2011 8:33:59 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: brownsfan

At this point I would go one step further. Give the Bambster his clean bill with a DC increase based on CBO figures for government spending requirements over the next 6 month. Nothing for anything new, just enough to keep the doors open until a new budget can be passed. See if he vetoes it, which I think he will because his ultimate plan is to collapse the economy and blame it on the GOP in general and the Tea Party specifically to scare Indies back into the fold for 2012. If he does veto it then at that point he has no credibility left and should be hammered on it. If he signs it then the GOP goes back to work putting together a budget with REAL cuts in it and dare the Democrats to table it. If they do then we right back here again just as the next election cycle is starting up, which puts O’Bama right where he doesn’t want to be.


79 posted on 07/27/2011 9:46:46 AM PDT by redangus
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