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No on had a gun!

A couple of .44 magnums could have turned the tide.

1 posted on 07/25/2011 4:55:38 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus
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To: Titus-Maximus

The bear continued “mailing” him..........


2 posted on 07/25/2011 4:57:31 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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I guess a lesson was learned! Sad that two young men are in critical condition.


3 posted on 07/25/2011 5:04:32 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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There was no time to pull out their bear deterrent spray and no one had a gun.

Is it wrong to find some sic humor in that statement?

Doesn't sound like their "survival" training did them much good..... (((ping)))

4 posted on 07/25/2011 5:04:59 PM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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I bet Palin would have been packin’.


5 posted on 07/25/2011 5:07:51 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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A .45 do any good? Going to the Tetons. Wondering if a .45 is enough.


6 posted on 07/25/2011 5:08:49 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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Authorities believe the bear was aggressive because it was with its cub.

Standard frickin' excuse as if it is ok to be killed by a bear if there is a cub around. No one saw a frickin cub but that doesn't matter the "authorities" will use this excuse as often as they can get away with it, as if Grizzlies have never attacked unprovoked before.

Not one of the kids molested a cub but the Grizzly attacked anyway. Grizzlies are known to attack for no reason at all, cubs or no, simply because they feel like it.

Soon, there will be FReepers commenting that the kids deserved it because they were in the bear's territory, as if humans have no right to the woods.

10 posted on 07/25/2011 5:12:42 PM PDT by calex59
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To: george76

Ping


12 posted on 07/25/2011 5:14:39 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Flycatcher

Not a bird ping


13 posted on 07/25/2011 5:15:06 PM PDT by beaversmom
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if you're supposed to be learning about how to survive where the grizz roams, the first thing you should have learned was to have a 12 shotgun handy at all times.
17 posted on 07/25/2011 5:17:37 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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The attack Saturday night in the Talkeetna Mountains north of Anchorage came as the group was nearing the end of a 30-day course to learn how to survive in the backcountry. The teens were at the stage of the course where they could try out their skills without adults around.

How many learned this lesson, I wonder?

"Don't go into grizzly country without a grizzly gun."

18 posted on 07/25/2011 5:18:54 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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“I was looking for an adventure,” said Samuel Gottsegen, the Denver teenager who survived a grizzly bear attack in the Alaska this weekend. His adventure came with bite marks in his head and a pierced lung.

Gottsegen, 17, took part in the National Outdoor Leadership School student expedition with 13 other students and three instructors. On the last leg of the trip, seven students remained in what NOLS spokesperson Bruce Palmer describes as a “self-sufficiency field base experience.”

http://abcnews.go.com/US/grizzly-bear-attack-survivor-describes-alaskan-ordeal/t/story?id=14152757

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20 posted on 07/25/2011 5:24:09 PM PDT by kcvl
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Apparently these teens did NOT watch Sarah Palin’s Alaska otherwise they would have learned something about Grizzly bears


22 posted on 07/25/2011 5:26:56 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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“Then the bear left, only to return a moment later to continue mailing him...”

To where, the hospital?


23 posted on 07/25/2011 5:27:11 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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Well, I can understand a camp/survival school isn't going to send a bunch of teens into the backcountry armed. Though I might question sending them into grizzly country. I must have missed the part about the grizz attacking through a cloud of bear spray, which is frequently effective in situations like this. If they can handle 30 days in the backcountry, they can handle spray. Presuming it's legal for minors to carry. My opinion only.

25 posted on 07/25/2011 5:28:19 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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Then the bear left, only to return a moment later to continue mailing him

I guess she went looking for a stamp...

26 posted on 07/25/2011 5:28:38 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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A couple of .44 magnums could have turned the tide.

With a grizzly? If you want to tickle him... In the Alaska backwoods you carry a 45-70 lever or a 12GA with slugs; if it HAS to be a pistol nothing less than a 460 or S&W 500. Twelve Hundred Pounds of muscle and death and anger doesn't go down lightly...

44 posted on 07/25/2011 5:57:22 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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The attack Saturday night in the Talkeetna Mountains north of Anchorage came as the group was nearing the end of a 30-day course to learn how to survive in the backcountry.

Final Exam.

Prayers up for the youngsters, they got more than they bargained for.

48 posted on 07/25/2011 5:58:46 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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I would have called Dick Cheney to take care of the bear.


55 posted on 07/25/2011 6:09:41 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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even though the students had been told to play dead.

It seems that I recently read an article about bear attacks that said you should NEVER play dead. Always fight back.

I think I'd fight anyway possible.

56 posted on 07/25/2011 6:10:27 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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A 44 Magnum has less power than a 30-30. Not good against an engraged, charging Grizzly, unless you are a cold, expert pistol shot.

Minimum, several of them should have been armed and trained with 30-06 with heavy, premium bullets. I say minimum. 338 Win Mag is better, but that kind of monster recoil is a lot to expect from a bunch of kids.

57 posted on 07/25/2011 6:10:38 PM PDT by FlyVet
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