Posted on 07/18/2011 9:32:28 AM PDT by Vigilanteman
Not long ago, we had an interesting discussion on the 25 most liberal and conservative cities in America based on voting behavior. That thread is on the source URL.
I showed this list to a libtard acquaintence and suggested we compare crime rates. Of course, he tried to dismiss it stating factors other than liberal voting accounted for the high crime rates. We agreed to compare just the top five cities in each category just to sample his theory. So I am listing the top 5 cities in each category followed by the (total crime rate, violent crime rate, property crime rate). A score of 100.00 is exactly the national average. Thus, a score of 50 would be half the national average, a score of 200 would be twice the national average.
These can be verified on the Home Facts website.
Berkeley is sandwiched in between Oakland and Richmond. The Amish from those cities love hanging around downtown Berkeley at night, to sample its cultural amenities. :)
Two towns in north/central PA.
Virtually NO “ethnic diversity” in this area of the state.
The names have been redacted to protect the citzens!
[”C”], PA (1.03)(0.00)(3.43)
[”S”], PA (14.96)(0.00)(49.88)
Provo is a city?
Of the four Gary may well be the most soundly situated financially.
I guess if you only have 6 police squad cars on the road at night, never fix the potholes, have just 8 snowplows operational and never hit the back streets, most of the town without curb and gutter, don't run street sweepers, have just 12 fire trucks,in a city that runs from Cline Ave. to the Porter County line, you might save a few bucks (although they're still broke).
Liberal city crime rates will drop in the ensuing years as there is less and less to steal until they become Havanas as you suggest.
Black population <7%.
It's funny you should mention that. I brought this up on a thread not too long ago when someone mentioned not hearing much out of Detroit on the crime front anymore.
First, of course, the much longer prison sentences handed out now compared to the 70s and 80s made a big difference. But Detroit, like East St. Louis, Gary, Flint, Newark, etc., are just are so gutted there's nothing left to fight over.
Your town has hit rock bottom when even the crack dealers leave because there isn't enough money in the economy of the town to sustain a market.
Cities like Chicago and Philly that still post big crime headlines are still functioning enough where the criminal class can thrive.
It's that gritty edge where the blue collar vice money meets the underclass where the explosions happened. Once that was gone it's pretty much reduced to impulse crime.
I've been there several times over the years ~ even back when they painted new houses yellow to save the streaking you'd get in new white paint.
Perhaps the towns that neighbor Berkeley could explain that?
I didn’t think that there were 25 conservative cities left!
While I’d like to agree with your thesis, your data is kind of “cherry-picked” to compare big urban cities like Oakland and Detroit with smaller cities.
A true apples to apples comparison would be more convincing.
Our numbers are good 27 miles outside of Pittsburgh: (5.23)(0.00)(17.43) They would be near perfect if we could put a stop to the ethnic cleansing of mailboxes.
Well, obviously, "liberal voting" wouldn't be the CAUSE of high crime rates, and that's not the point. The point is that there is a CORRELATION between people of low character and liberal voting.
Low character causes both crime and liberal voting.
Notice also that in those places with a lower (< 75) overall crime rate
that the violent crime rate is often HALF of what the property crime rate is.
I don’t know if you meant to be facetious or not but this is exactly the conclusion I drew from the data. Democrats are the party of corruption. They lie, cheat and steal; literally. Is it any wonder that their constituencies are also on the take? Given liberals’ penchant for handing out the fruit of other mens’ labor, it’s not an unreasonble conclusion that those who vote for them are their cohorts in crime.
I don’t know if you meant to be facetious or not but this is exactly the conclusion I drew from the data. Democrats are the party of corruption. They lie, cheat and steal; literally. Is it any wonder that their constituencies are also on the take? Given liberals’ penchant for handing out the fruit of other mens’ labor, it’s not an unreasonble conclusion that those who vote for them are their cohorts in crime.
That's bunk! Especially if you're concerned with crime.
Crime statistics should be based on crimes per-capita. In other words the number of crimes committed per 100,000 population.
This is done for a good reason.
Would you rather live in city of 1 million that had 300 murders, or a city of 200,000 that had 275 murders?
Based on the final 2006 FBI Crime Statistics.
Dallas and Berkeley Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People
Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:
| Dallas, TX | Berkeley, CA | National | ||
| Murder: | 15 | 3.9 | 7 | |
| Forcible Rape: | 53.28 | 21.64 | 32.2 | |
| Robbery: | 553.9 | 407.3 | 205.8 | |
| Aggravated Assault: | 584.2 | 202.7 | 336.5 | |
| Burglary: | 1734.7 | 1133.3 | 813.2 | |
| Larceny Theft: | 4006.4 | 5013.2 | 2601.7 | |
| Vehicle Theft: | 1116 | 1057.5 | 501.5 |
Based on the final 2006 FBI Crime Statistics. |
It is a fairly realistic measure of crime data on which insurance companies will price their policies.
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