Posted on 07/17/2011 5:53:53 PM PDT by george76
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Sunday that communities have a right to ban Islamic mosques.
Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," the former Godfather's Pizza CEO said protests and legal challenges to a planned mosque in Tennessee city are an example of local residents pushing back.
Cain said his view doesn't amount to religious discrimination because he says Muslims are trying to inject Shariah law into the U.S.
(Excerpt) Read more at kiiitv.com ...
Common sense is different from discrimination.
When the Catholic church or any other religion starts strapping on C-4 vests to their kids and blowing up people for 25k a kid at open air markets it will be time to take a close look at their religious status as well.
We can’t even cut off Islamic money to the President’s campaign fund much less to religious organizations! Good luck with that one.
Islamic jihad coming to a neighborhood near you.....
"I disagree with the legal principle of incorporation which makes the Constitution apply to states. I don’t believe a state has to guarantee religious liberty, or any other kind of liberty, just because the Constitution of the US says so. The US Constitution should apply to the federal government alone."So, for example if the state's majority decided they wanted a Judenrein state, they ought to be able to implement it?
Right, Cain is a dunce...name calling a candidate when you, yourself, obviously have little grasp of the Constitution. Let’s say Cain became President...could he himself BAN the mosque? No, so it is a moot point. Do ANY of you on here actually know what is going on in Murfreesboro, or are you just pontificating to hear yourselves bloviate...because, unless you know the situation and this group, then you have no room to talk. The difference between you and Cain is that Cain actually went to the Boro and actually found out, from the people, what is going on. As for the Constitutional argument, communities can rally to ban churches/etc. If they take it through the legal pathways that is fine...if the group wanting to build objects, they can take it to court. Why should communities be able to ban walmart stores if it violates the private property rights afforded to us in the Constitution? think about it...
And for all of you who think Cain is a dunce and doesn’t have a chance in this race...it is interesting that you keep saying this in every post and donate so much time to arguing against a man with no chance to win. LOL!
A Walmart was trying to build one locally it was petitioned against and never built. I’m not sure of the reason they even attempted this since the mall, sams club and walmart are five miles away from the planned location.
Thanks for that quote (#99). I was thinking of it when I posted. Very interesting discussion/thread. Thanks to all posters.
Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.
Fislam
HOORAY Herman Cain!
“Once you ban the practice of any religion, the only way to make good on your proscription is to come down like a hammer on your citizenry”
Your point is very well taken.
What was the name that was given to Charles Martel?
“...because the practice will move underground. You’ll find the citizens of the formerly free USA under the same sort of government scrutiny seen in inquisitional Spain or 1970’s China. You wouldn’t like it.”
Again, see Mr. Martel, above.
When he was finished, how many Islamics remained?
I’m sure the citizens didn’t “like it” while he was a-hammerin’.
But I’m also certain that they liked it a whole lot better once Martel was done driving out Islam.
So it will go here.
Just predictin’....
I have no problem with a state implementing an official religion. Am I wrong that at the founding of the US Maryland was officially Catholic and Massachusetts was officially protestant? If I am wrong about those two specifics, I am fairly certain that many states had official religions. Was America not America until the 14th amendment passed?
I wouldn’t mind living in an officially Catholic state in the USA. At least that is what I think - since this is hypothetical I might be way off about it being better.
No - who cares what the majority thinks?
A supermajority on the other hand should be able to do anything it wants.
Roman Catholic priests were banned in Massachusetts hundreds of years ago. Over time, common sense prevailed and the ban was lifted. It is typical of liberals (not that I am calling you one) to think that a government law is required to get a desired outcome. No federal government law was actually needed to remove this ban (from what I know).
Over time, common sense would continue to prevail and federalism would work as the founders intended. Bad policies by states take care of themselves eventually.
Well, you could always tell a few mohammed jokes. Check for the reaction.
where do you think you're going to be able to expel the non-immigrant muslims too?
Well, there's already a hell of a lot of them in prison. Eventually many of them will cause their own institutionalization.
“Your support of China’s policy”
Stop right there. If you’re going to take a sledgehammer to a china cup, I can’t discuss anything with you.
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly
systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of
property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded
sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its
dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must
belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or
a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam
has ceased to be a great power among men.""Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the
brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence
of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund,
Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread
throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were
it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science
against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might
fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."-- Winston Churchill
Pinging the Herman Cainiacs! Sorry it's been a few days, we were away for my son's baseball...
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“If they just stopped all these things it would buy us decades more of religious freedom.”
And survival.
None of the above. He’s saying that if a community and its citizens don’t want a mosque built there, they should have the right to refuse its construction and not have it forced upon them.
Also, I’ve followed this story for awhile now. The mosque being proposed will be a mammoth structure (as are an alarming number in otherwise really small communities), and there’s no disclosure where the millions of dollars are coming from to build it (as is most often the case). The number of known Muslims there (in the Murfreesboro area) is small and none of those few have high incomes or means.
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