Posted on 07/17/2011 5:30:36 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
July 17th, 2011
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Herman Cain, GOP presidential candidate; Reps. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, and Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Jack Lew, head of the White House budget office; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Jim DeMint, R-S.C.; Gov. John Kasich, R-Ohio; David Cote, CEO of Honeywell International and member of the president’s deficit commission.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Durbin and Sens. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Tom Coburn, R-Okla.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Lew; Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Lew; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
But then we have not presented a bill yet.
Look at this the other way. All of this is from “legit” news sources.
Servicing the debt is around $20 billion per month. Military pay, Social Security Medicare and Medicaid add up to less than we take in each month, leaving about $20 billion, depending on whose numbers you believe. The cuts come from elsewhere.
What else do we cut? Obama has increased “discretionary” spending by over 80%. Let’s start there. It’s nowhere rear enough, but it’s a short term fix.
Thanks. that photo made my day.
From the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence:
when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
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Sounds pretty twenty-first century USA to me!
It IS our duty to fight this despotism.
Great to see you on the thread.
Its like Christmas having you on for a few posts,any predictions on how this will all turn out?
The Obama Curse continues on the women’s soccer team. His look at me tweet doomed their chances.
Pray for America
Hey Rodguy, I agree Obama and the Dems play this stuff masterfully, especially with cover from the media. But our guys are incredibly bad at the game, and I don’t see any PR or negotiating talent from even the junior members of the leadership team either.
I wonder if Rubio is good at it and well suited to move up the ranks, considering his experience in the FL legislature. Also, of Bachmann doesn’t overplay her hand in her run, she could move into the House leadership in the next Congress.
Your local GOP stories are great, Fishtalk!
Just imagine how different the world would be if every Freeper could get a few GOP friends to join their local GOP organization with him or her. It’d be a whole new party!
Rubio doesn’t have executive experience, either. I want him to become a leader for us in the Senate. Also, there’s that questionable NBC qualification issue for him with the presidency.
Anyone else notice that Durbin’s been all over the airwaves of late, while Chuckie Schumer all but disappeared..
I understand it would take a supermajority for tax hikes. There is nothing automatic about it any more than there would be an automatic cut in spending.
Maryland has a facsimile of this called Thornton, which automatically determines when spending hikes for education are required. The Dems never have to go on the record raising the spending. It just automatically goes up as part of a formula. Can they afford it? No. But they do it and then either tax more or steal from other rice bowls.
Programmatic increases in spending or taxes is the ultimate leftie wet dream. It all happens automatically. It’s even better than a vote on Christmas Eve.
Speaking to a friend who told me she was voting for Obama..I asked her “do you know his middle name”...she said she didnt.. I asked her why she was voting for him ...she said everyone she knows is. So I once again asked her ...what is this person who you think is the best choice to be our president ..what is his middle name??. She didn’t know, I told her, she voted rep.
Doesnt take much when you know who ya talkin to
Speaking to a friend who told me she was voting for Obama..I asked her “do you know his middle name”...she said she didnt.. I asked her why she was voting for him ...she said everyone she knows is. So I once again asked her ...what is this person who you think is the best choice to be our president ..what is his middle name??. She didn’t know, I told her, she voted rep.
Doesnt take much when you know who ya talkin to
Article-- `
Section 1. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed total receipts for that fiscal year, unless two-thirds of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific excess of outlays over receipts by a roll call vote.
`Section 2. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed 18 percent of the gross domestic product of the United States for the calendar year ending before the beginning of such fiscal year, unless two-thirds of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific amount in excess of such 18 percent by a roll call vote.
`Section 3. Prior to each fiscal year, the President shall transmit to the Congress a proposed budget for the United States Government for that fiscal year in which--
`(1) total outlays do not exceed total receipts; and
`(2) total outlays do not exceed 18 percent of the gross domestic product of the United States for the calendar year ending before the beginning of such fiscal year.
`Section 4. Any bill that imposes a new tax or increases the statutory rate of any tax or the aggregate amount of revenue may pass only by a two-thirds majority of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress by a roll call vote. For the purpose of determining any increase in revenue under this section, there shall be excluded any increase resulting from the lowering of the statutory rate of any tax.
`Section 5. The limit on the debt of the United States shall not be increased, unless three-fifths of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide for such an increase by a roll call vote.
`Section 6. The Congress may waive the provisions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 5 of this article for any fiscal year in which a declaration of war against a nation-state is in effect and in which a majority of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide for a specific excess by a roll call vote.
`Section 7. The Congress may waive the provisions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 5 of this article in any fiscal year in which the United States is engaged in a military conflict that causes an imminent and serious military threat to national security and is so declared by three-fifths of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress by a roll call vote. Such suspension must identify and be limited to the specific excess of outlays for that fiscal year made necessary by the identified military conflict.
`Section 8. No court of the United States or of any State shall order any increase in revenue to enforce this article.
`Section 9. Total receipts shall include all receipts of the United States Government except those derived from borrowing. Total outlays shall include all outlays of the United States Government except those for repayment of debt principal.
`Section 10. The Congress shall have power to enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation, which may rely on estimates of outlays, receipts, and gross domestic product.
`Section 11. This article shall take effect beginning with the fifth fiscal year beginning after its ratification.'
Article-- `
Section 1. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed total receipts for that fiscal year, unless two-thirds of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific excess of outlays over receipts by a roll call vote.
`Section 2. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed 18 percent of the gross domestic product of the United States for the calendar year ending before the beginning of such fiscal year, unless two-thirds of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific amount in excess of such 18 percent by a roll call vote.
`Section 3. Prior to each fiscal year, the President shall transmit to the Congress a proposed budget for the United States Government for that fiscal year in which--
`(1) total outlays do not exceed total receipts; and
`(2) total outlays do not exceed 18 percent of the gross domestic product of the United States for the calendar year ending before the beginning of such fiscal year.
`Section 4. Any bill that imposes a new tax or increases the statutory rate of any tax or the aggregate amount of revenue may pass only by a two-thirds majority of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress by a roll call vote. For the purpose of determining any increase in revenue under this section, there shall be excluded any increase resulting from the lowering of the statutory rate of any tax.
`Section 5. The limit on the debt of the United States shall not be increased, unless three-fifths of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide for such an increase by a roll call vote.
`Section 6. The Congress may waive the provisions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 5 of this article for any fiscal year in which a declaration of war against a nation-state is in effect and in which a majority of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide for a specific excess by a roll call vote.
`Section 7. The Congress may waive the provisions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 5 of this article in any fiscal year in which the United States is engaged in a military conflict that causes an imminent and serious military threat to national security and is so declared by three-fifths of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress by a roll call vote. Such suspension must identify and be limited to the specific excess of outlays for that fiscal year made necessary by the identified military conflict.
`Section 8. No court of the United States or of any State shall order any increase in revenue to enforce this article.
`Section 9. Total receipts shall include all receipts of the United States Government except those derived from borrowing. Total outlays shall include all outlays of the United States Government except those for repayment of debt principal.
`Section 10. The Congress shall have power to enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation, which may rely on estimates of outlays, receipts, and gross domestic product.
`Section 11. This article shall take effect beginning with the fifth fiscal year beginning after its ratification.'
Sorry I missed the Sunday morning thread. We’ve had company in from Rhode Island and I have spent every waking moment trying to make my favorite 4 year old girl and her year and half old sister happy. Proud of what you are doing Fishtalk. We will meet before I leave this area for sure. Lewes leans left? I’m shocked. Lewes is as conservative as Berkley, but eventually we on the right will win.
Yes, the world cup announcer lady was all atwitter that Bambi an his 2 girls and maybe even MMB herself could be viewing the game on their WH TV. She kept saying it over and over. Made me sick AND jinxed the team.
Of course it is dangerous. Danger to a Democrat Party that is wholly dependent on buying votes with taxpayer dollars. This whole debate is a load of crap. So instead of spending $17 trillion in deficits in 10 years, we will only spend 14 trillion? No one in DC is being serious about this. Time for the House GOP to simply pass a balanced budget. Pay the military, Soc Security, Medicare and the debt payments. Put a real serious plan on the table that balances the budget for the rest of the year tied to the Debt Limit increase and dare the President 0 and the Democrats to block it.
Here is the text of the proposed amendment:
Article— `
Section 1. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed total receipts for that fiscal year, unless two-thirds of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific excess of outlays over receipts by a roll call vote.
`Section 2. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed 18 percent of the gross domestic product of the United States for the calendar year ending before the beginning of such fiscal year, unless two-thirds of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific amount in excess of such 18 percent by a roll call vote.
`Section 3. Prior to each fiscal year, the President shall transmit to the Congress a proposed budget for the United States Government for that fiscal year in which—
`(1) total outlays do not exceed total receipts; and
`(2) total outlays do not exceed 18 percent of the gross domestic product of the United States for the calendar year ending before the beginning of such fiscal year.
`Section 4. Any bill that imposes a new tax or increases the statutory rate of any tax or the aggregate amount of revenue may pass only by a two-thirds majority of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress by a roll call vote. For the purpose of determining any increase in revenue under this section, there shall be excluded any increase resulting from the lowering of the statutory rate of any tax.
`Section 5. The limit on the debt of the United States shall not be increased, unless three-fifths of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide for such an increase by a roll call vote.
`Section 6. The Congress may waive the provisions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 5 of this article for any fiscal year in which a declaration of war against a nation-state is in effect and in which a majority of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide for a specific excess by a roll call vote.
`Section 7. The Congress may waive the provisions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 5 of this article in any fiscal year in which the United States is engaged in a military conflict that causes an imminent and serious military threat to national security and is so declared by three-fifths of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress by a roll call vote. Such suspension must identify and be limited to the specific excess of outlays for that fiscal year made necessary by the identified military conflict.
`Section 8. No court of the United States or of any State shall order any increase in revenue to enforce this article.
`Section 9. Total receipts shall include all receipts of the United States Government except those derived from borrowing. Total outlays shall include all outlays of the United States Government except those for repayment of debt principal.
`Section 10. The Congress shall have power to enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation, which may rely on estimates of outlays, receipts, and gross domestic product.
`Section 11. This article shall take effect beginning with the fifth fiscal year beginning after its ratification.’
This will never — as in NOT EVER — be enacted. No chance.
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