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A Restaurant to Ban Kids Under 6 -- Older Customers Complained About Rowdiness
ABC ^ | 7/13/11

Posted on 07/13/2011 7:26:05 AM PDT by markomalley

It hasn't been a banner year for the under-6 set.

Starting July 16, McDain's, a Pittsburgh-area restaurant, will ban children under the age of 6 from its dining area. Restaurant owner Mike Vuick said the policy came in response to complaints he'd received from older customers about kids causing a ruckus. In an email to his clientele, Vuick wrote, "We feel that McDain's is a not a place for young children … and many, many times they have disturbed other customers."

A few weeks ago, Malaysia Airlines announced that it would ban infants from flying in the first-class cabin because other passengers had complained about squalling babies. And last February it was rumored that Virgin Atlantic and British Airways had been pressured to consider child-free zones and even child-free planes to appease business travelers who, according to a travel survey, listed unruly children as their No. 1 travel-related complaint.

So, just when did our precious "pets" become everyone else's pet peeves? Are these bans even legal? Apparently yes. Federal law forbids discrimination on racial or religious grounds, but there is no blanket protection for children. For business owners like Vuick that means they can set the rules.

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To: xtinct
We left half a tip since the baby wasn't vetted before being taken to the cheap seats.

Did your waiter/waitress determine that you should be "taken to the cheap seats"? Letting the manager know that you wouldn't be back is one thing; shorting the wait staff for carrying out a management policy is another. (How does one "vet" an 18-month-old anyway?)

21 posted on 07/13/2011 7:47:00 AM PDT by Bob
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To: WayneS

I agree the market will decide. I also believe this will go over quite well with the 99.99% of people who, when they go out to dinner do NOT relish bratty little kids whining and raising hell because their parents are unable or unwilling to control them.

My guess is this restaurant picks up some serious numbers of new customers.


22 posted on 07/13/2011 7:47:27 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: NoGrayZone

“It has become a spare the rod, spoil the child world. Parents now want to be “friends” with their children instead of parents.....or parent, another problem.”

To a point. There are just some bad seeds out there, and even a super parent can’t make the kid behave. How do you reconcile a parent who raises three kids, two are successful and were model kids, the other an out of control drug addict. Obviously they were doing something right and the assumption being they used the same general approach to all three kids. Sometimes kids just have no desire to behave or listen to their parents.


23 posted on 07/13/2011 7:47:46 AM PDT by Bruinator (God is Great.... God is Good....Evil is Real.)
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To: markomalley

So what? They ought to be able to ban anybody they want.


24 posted on 07/13/2011 7:48:42 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Tea Party: La Resistance)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Considering how many parents view their kids as pets and allow them to go feral after getting bored with them, I think it is an appropriate word.

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There are a lot of them. An appalling number of them are quite affluent too. It amazes me that people who are clearly socially adept with regard to their peers or in professional settings then resolutely ignore the chaotic barbarisms of their undisciplined, largely castaway children. I do not blame the children in these situations.


25 posted on 07/13/2011 7:49:27 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Bob
I use a 32 page questionnaire.

;-)

26 posted on 07/13/2011 7:49:42 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: markomalley
The reason these kids are acting out is that their parents are stupid jerks and the kids are only imitating them.
27 posted on 07/13/2011 7:49:50 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: puppypusher

I’d rather hear a baby cry than an old man yell into his cell phone.


28 posted on 07/13/2011 7:52:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: markomalley

I can live with this. Now where can I find the grocery store that bans old people?


29 posted on 07/13/2011 7:52:57 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: markomalley
Starting July 16, McDain's, a Pittsburgh-area restaurant, will ban children under the age of 6 from its dining area. Restaurant owner Mike Vuick said the policy came in response to complaints he'd received from older customers about kids causing a ruckus. In an email to his clientele, Vuick wrote, "We feel that McDain's is a not a place for young children … and many, many times they have disturbed other customers."

Wow, a restaurant with its head screwed on straight.
30 posted on 07/13/2011 7:53:11 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Tax-chick

It would make Chuck E Cheese more tolerable.


31 posted on 07/13/2011 7:55:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: nuconvert

>Now, if they start having restaurants that don’t allow cell phones or children under 5, I’ll be there.

Hell, just the cell-phone.
Do you know how rude I think it is with all the texting in the middle of a conversation? It’s almost like people are afraid to give their full attention to someone.


32 posted on 07/13/2011 7:56:01 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Poison Pill

Or just one that doesn’t supply scooters or allow them into the store.


33 posted on 07/13/2011 7:56:23 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: markomalley

It used to be that parents wouldn’t take young children to formal restaurants except for special occasions—and even then one parent would quickly take any misbehaving kids outdoors.


34 posted on 07/13/2011 7:57:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

“We asked the waitress if they could try to do something....the adults were busy chatting and making NO attempt to make the kid stop screaming”

That’s the kind of thing that would make me pull up a chair at their table and start whining at the top of my lungs.


35 posted on 07/13/2011 7:57:42 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

LOL! I pride myself on never having entered a Chuck E. Cheese, although I believe DP took some child to a friend’s birthday party there once.


36 posted on 07/13/2011 7:58:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" ~ John Adams)
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To: xtinct

“cheap seats” are part of the wait stations in the restaurant, and the hostess’ job is to take turns seating customers in each section of the restaurant so the wait staff all get equal number of customers at their assigned tables

I know this is probably falling on deaf indignant ears (how dare they assume MY baby would be noisy),but next time you don’t like your table, ask the manager to re-seat you - or leave. Don’t stiff the server in retaliation for your table assignment


37 posted on 07/13/2011 7:58:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Peter from Rutland

>(to celebrate his birthday, our anniversary, and my raise and bonus at work).

Congratulations on all the good fortune.


38 posted on 07/13/2011 7:58:45 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Bruinator

You are absolutely correct. However, if your family is out and 1 child is causing a disturbance, all of the family left, or one parent took the child out to calm him/her down.

If that didn’t work, then the whole family left. I believe in bad seeds, no matter how great the parents are.

I believe the point of this article is not to inflict the bad seed upon the public.


39 posted on 07/13/2011 7:59:18 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: markomalley

It all goes back to the parents. My DD/DSIL have been taking their 2 girls to fine restaurants since they were 3 and 4. People in tables around them would come up and comment on their good behavior and nice manners. It all goes back to teaching and expectations. These girls are now 12 and 13 and are a pleasure to take anywhere.


40 posted on 07/13/2011 7:59:59 AM PDT by Exit148
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