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ABC News Confirms Bachmann Clinic Used "Pray Away The Gay' Therapy
Business Insider ^ | 07/11/2011 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 07/11/2011 7:43:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

An ABC News story tonight confirmed rumors that the Christian counseling clinic owned by Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann and her husband Marcus Bachmann offered therapy to help "convert" homosexuals to heterosexuals. The "World News" report featured an interview with a former patient at the Bachmann & Associates clinic, Andrew Ramirez, who first visited the counseling center as a 17-year-old in 2004.

"[One counselor's] path for my therapy would be to read the Bible, pray to God that I would no longer be gay," Ramirez told ABC News. "And God would forgive me if I were straight."

Ramirez story, first reported by The Nation, is backed up by an undercover video at the clinic, which shows a counselor telling a gay man that he can be "totally free" of his homosexual feelings through prayer and hard work.

Mr. Bachmann has previously denied that his clinic offers "ex-gay" treatments, known as reparative therapy. The American Psychiatric Association does not condone the practice, and has said it might have potentially harmful mental health consequences.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abchitjob; abcnews; clinic; gay; hitjob; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; michelebachmann
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To: MindBender26

RE: .... and the problem is?

You have to understand the Liberal way of thinking:

If your ideology is this — SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS THE SAME AS SKIN COLOR, then you’ll have a problem with it.

If Being Black or Brown does not require therapy, why does being gay require it?


21 posted on 07/11/2011 7:58:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

The unfortunate thing is we live in world fed on counterintuitive myths. A simple analysis of gay age demographics shows that most individuals who at one point experiment or believe they are gay eventually leave the gay lifestyle. That alone proves it isnt immutable but instead we are expected to accept the word of a very liberal Association as if it is fact no questions asked. I personally don’t care how one lives their personal life but I will not play pretend with the media as they parrot stupidity.


22 posted on 07/11/2011 7:58:34 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They caught her being a Christian? I bet they have enough evidence to convict.


23 posted on 07/11/2011 7:58:34 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: GoCards

Just like I've been saying , they will destroy her and with Bachmann they have sooooo much more to work with than with Palin. When they are done with Bachmann , she will be ruined and in the process Bachmann will make Palin look like saint. It's not fair but it's the real world.


24 posted on 07/11/2011 7:59:16 PM PDT by RED SOUTH (Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: GoCards
They will demagogue the hell out of this and her and then - put Romney on the spot asking him to comment on this. He, of course, will denounce it, in the mistaken belief the answer will endear him to the MSM and independents.

The cycle has become obvious - just like that simp on MTP on Sunday asking T-Paw "where do you differ with the Republican Party?". I have never heard that question get asked of a RAT.

25 posted on 07/11/2011 8:02:02 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: RED SOUTH

Actually I like her better now but at least she is not muslim lke dick obama


26 posted on 07/11/2011 8:04:45 PM PDT by italianquaker (When will Wallace ask obama if he is a flake?)
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To: SeekAndFind
This Newsweak article doesn't connect the dots exactly, but I think the implied criticism (beyond the obvious liberal criticism that therapists shouldn't try to help cure gays) is that the Bachman clinic accepts medicaid funds from the federal government for this kind of faith-based treatment even though Michelle is pretty outspoken against medicaid spending. See, e.g., this article. A big stretch, if you ask me.
27 posted on 07/11/2011 8:04:49 PM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: Maelstorm

Good point. I also believe that the guilt of an inquisitive dalliance keeps people in that lifestyle as well. People in that situation are not genuinely happy. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the suicide rate among male homosexuals is higher that that of heterosexuals.


28 posted on 07/11/2011 8:05:21 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: LonelyCon

If they were not honest about the type therapy, then they committed Medicare fraud.


29 posted on 07/11/2011 8:06:36 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: Batman11

“Dick Obama should sign up!”

Should we abbreviate the initials as R.O. or D.O,? Either way I like the new first name.


30 posted on 07/11/2011 8:09:10 PM PDT by mcshot ("...of the people, by the people, for the people..." but we aren't "his people".)
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To: Shadow44
I would add a few words to your comment...

The sad thing is that there are people out there who have same sex attraction thoughts and DO NOT want to be like that, yet society and the psychiatric establishment tell them to just embrace it.

Nobody is forcing anyone into this kind of therapy.
Why, then, should anybody have a problem with Bachmann's clinic offering this Christian alternative -- to those who want to try it?

Obvious answer: No one should have a problem with it.

But the pc psychiatric establishment does, because they want a monopoly on "treatment" of all "gender dysphoria" (i.e., you should just accept it that you are homosexual, and take pride in it!).

And the MSM does too, because anything that is Christian must, of course, be wrong.

31 posted on 07/11/2011 8:10:16 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: American in Israel
The American Psyc Ass does not like Prayer for Homosexuality, because it works while their Psyco Babble does nothing at $75 bucks an hour.

You are correct.

That happened in 1974, with the printing of the Diagnostics and Statistics Manual (DSM) II, where homosexuality was removed because of pressure from it was replaced with "sexual orientation disturbance"; and would later morph into a treatment strategy that includes getting homosexuals to feel better about themselves.

32 posted on 07/11/2011 8:11:11 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stop the Ghate!!!!!!!!


33 posted on 07/11/2011 8:13:11 PM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yet if Dr. Bachmann had been in the business of mutilating his patients’ bodies to resemble the opposite gender, ABC would see nothing questionable whatsoever.


34 posted on 07/11/2011 8:13:49 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps the queers would prefer the Islamic method of dealing with them.


35 posted on 07/11/2011 8:14:51 PM PDT by crosshairs (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: al baby

Same bull, different hay.


36 posted on 07/11/2011 8:15:18 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: RED SOUTH
Just like I've been saying , they will destroy her and with Bachmann they have sooooo much more to work with than with Palin. When they are done with Bachmann , she will be ruined and in the process Bachmann will make Palin look like saint.

LOL. So now it's a conspiracy by the MSM to support Palin?

37 posted on 07/11/2011 8:16:10 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: SeekAndFind

So BIG FREAKING DEAL!


38 posted on 07/11/2011 8:18:30 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: Prokopton
Nope, didn't say that.

Bachmann gives the media lots of low hanging fruit. Helping Palin is the result of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

39 posted on 07/11/2011 8:19:26 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: SeekAndFind
If your ideology is this — SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS THE SAME AS SKIN COLOR, then you’ll have a problem with it.

People spend a lot of time and money trying to make their skin darker.

40 posted on 07/11/2011 8:21:25 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o)
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