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Unbelievable: TV Reporter Mocks Romney's Mormonism
Commentary ^ | July 7, 2011

Posted on 07/09/2011 6:52:15 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

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To: mountainbunny
Mormons actually believe that they will become Gods on their own worlds in the afterlife if they are "worthy".

You are KIDDING! Right???


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


281 posted on 07/10/2011 12:47:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
You know R what “they” say. Men who need all those toys are compensating for something. :-)
282 posted on 07/10/2011 12:49:13 PM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: Rashputin

Well we agree on the GOP, but really, I beg you, do NOT ASSUME Mormons vote conservative. They don’t. They tend to vote moderate and I know a vast number of liberal Mormons, and will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS vote Mormon over a conservative. Romney won Utah by 90% percent of the vote. And frankly, I don’t care if Mormons vote conservative or not, they aren’t that large of a block, at least not for conservatives.

I’m not saying his record shouldn’t be an issue, it should be, but we cannot put blinders on and think that his religion is not an issue, or we will be blindsided.


283 posted on 07/10/2011 12:49:59 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

YOU are the one thats kept it up.

But yes, I will now go play with my toys.......

Still LMAO at your garbage.


284 posted on 07/10/2011 12:50:38 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Gator113

So, you are blaming God for your materialism? Wow, just wow.


285 posted on 07/10/2011 12:50:53 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: secondamendmentkid
“Why is it mocking to ask people if they know what Mormon doctrine actually states?”

Let's modify it a bit:

"Is it mocking to ask people if they know what Mormon doctrine actually states?”

(A simple yes/no is sufficient. You may explain your reasoning after answering)

286 posted on 07/10/2011 12:51:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut

Blind date? ;^)


287 posted on 07/10/2011 12:51:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: T.L.Sink; All
You’ve distorted or misunderstood what I said as well as attributing things to me I didn’t say. I never explicitly or implicitly said that moral character wasn’t important.

Well, welcome to our world, where we believe others have distorted our comments as well. We couldn't even begin to count how many times people have pulled out their secret "motivation judging" machine & claimed our referencing of Romney & Huntsman's religion is motivated by some deep dark problem we have.

And in my case, why? My Mormon relatives & friends are worth loving. And that includes loving them with the truth.

When I turn that "truth" worldview and apply it toward political candidates, I've simply realize a voter CANNOT cut up "character" as if it was 1/8th clean-living, 1/8th integrity, 1/8th disciplines, 1/8th habits & customs, 1/8th keeping your promises, 1/8th religion, 1/8th family, and 1/8th something else. It doesn't work that way!

Character intersects and overlaps all of our lives. And a character that's been deeply informed by a cult effects...
...discernment...
...a person's potential gullibility (vulnerability to deception) on other issues...
...a person's level of pride, which is a character issue.
...things beyond character like identity worldviews of the people a POTUS is suppose to represent!

So when you say your words have been distorted, try wearing my wardrobe. The secular & religious FREEPER compartmentalizers come thru these threads & consistently preach "thou shalt keep religion & politics separate" as if that was the personal John 3:16 of their lives that they'd like to impose on others!

Most of the time it's NOT worded like, "Well, religion's not an issue for me, but you as a voter do what you like." Most of the time they act deeply offended that we've had to gall to weigh character issues -- including religious-based character issues.

It's like they are almost threatened by the concept that if they can't "tame" religion by keeping it in a proper corner, well, why who knows where it will wind up?

And so their personal blinders in life is to go around and say, "this is sacred; this is secular; never the twain shall meet."

Well, to a Christian who actually reads & believes the Bible, this is pure heresy. Jesus is not just Lord of our Sunday Schools. He is Lord of life.

Either He is Lord of all of our life; or He ain't Lord at all!

Oh, and btw, I encourage all for people to pick up Tricia Erickson's new book: "Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus The Office Of The Presidency of the United States of America."

Erickson was recently interviewed on CNN. She closed out the interview by emphasizing what I have similarly said re: the need for a discerning POTUS:

...when it comes to placing a candidate in the highest office in the land, we need to place a stable and discerning president in office. If a candidate believes in proven lies and practices cult-like doctrine, how can the American people hold confidence in him/her as the leader of the free world? This may be the most important Presidential election in our history. We can’t afford to get it wrong.
Source: Tricia Erickson: 'An indoctrinated Mormon should never be elected as President'

It's an unfortunate thing if some FREEPERS think a POTUS is merely a paper-pushing administrator in which discernment is somehow a non-issue upon which to evaluate them!

288 posted on 07/10/2011 12:51:35 PM PDT by Colofornian (The Mormon church regards 100% of the founding fathers as apostates from the 'true' church)
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To: T.L.Sink
You’ve distorted or misunderstood what I said as well as attributing things to me I didn’t say.

Please!

Point these out, as I do NOT want to make the same mistake!

289 posted on 07/10/2011 12:52:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw

It’s almost fun, some people are just outright characters out of a sitcom.

I can see him now with his floppy shoes and big red nose (reference to the rodeo clown).


290 posted on 07/10/2011 12:53:28 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: higgmeister
I say again, have you ever known of any Mormon Suicide Bombers?

Not exactly; but HISTORY records a certain MORMON that was SO fast with his gun, that he was able to cut down between 120-140 men, women and children; without them laying a hand on him!


(Google® John D. Lee)

291 posted on 07/10/2011 12:55:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Rashputin
How about an exhaustive list of groups who claim to be Christian and you say are not.

Not to worry. When one of their members decides to run for President, THEN we'll bow to your request.

292 posted on 07/10/2011 12:56:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw

Men who need all those toys are compensating for something

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And I think we are seeing proof of that here.

But then again, I can’t imagine wasting my money on toys like that.


293 posted on 07/10/2011 12:57:35 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: greyfoxx39
There's been an invasion here lately...shades of '08. They really need to get a new mantra, though..this one is getting tiresome.

New players!

What's not to love?

They'll be telling ALL their friends to tune in, and then those folks get to see what the MORMON Religious Organization wishes would be kept SILENT!

294 posted on 07/10/2011 12:58:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: higgmeister
Islam hold all of its women in bondage.

Even the AMERICAN ones?

295 posted on 07/10/2011 12:59:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Gator113; svcw

YOU are the one that keeps responding, YOU are the one that is tyring to shut me up (won’t work), YOU are the ones that is being insulting and childish.

LMAO at your stupidity.

BTW, head over to this page, request a Book of Mormon and the missionaries will be over (probably young men not women) and in 6 short meetings YOU TOO CAN BE ON YOUR WAY TO GODHOOD (since you already act like it). You will be a great Mormon, arrogant, blind, and condescending. Perfect LDS priesthood material.

http://mormon.org/free-book-of-mormon?gclid=CMuIwtjE96kCFUTBKgodPR5HXw

Go ahead, respond, I can keep this up all day.


296 posted on 07/10/2011 1:00:57 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: mountainbunny
Are there Mormons living there?

Got driven out of Moon by them DAMNED! Quakers!

297 posted on 07/10/2011 1:01:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

LOL, actually it WAS a blind date. The brother of the girl across the hall in our student apartments.


298 posted on 07/10/2011 1:02:06 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Gator113
This was NOT a religion thread, but arguably it turned into one.

The more I read; the more I learn...


Unbelievable: TV Reporter Mocks Romney's Mormonism

299 posted on 07/10/2011 1:04:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Gator113
In my previous post I sincerely tried to be polite and cut this conversation off.

Yet; you jumped back in.

300 posted on 07/10/2011 1:04:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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