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Christian Right Accused of Sexism Over Lack of Enthusiasm for Bachmann
Christian Post ^ | July 7, 2011 | Napp Nazworth

Posted on 07/08/2011 5:30:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Christian Right leaders are not rallying behind Michele Bachmann for president and it’s “probably” because they are sexist, contends a writer for Time.

.....“Totally unfair and inaccurate” is how Penny Nance, CEO of Concerned Women for America, described [Amy] Sullivan's characterization. Nance was invited to join the conference call but was unable to do so.

“Social conservatives are ready for a woman president,” Nance said. “In fact, the McCain campaign really took off,” added Nance, “after Sarah Palin was nominated.”

Nance remembered that during the 2008 election she was mostly standing on the sidelines until Palin was added to the ticket. Then, she began volunteering for McCain and she has many friends that did the same. Palin “was a woman they identified with,” Nance said.

Regarding a Perry candidacy, Nance said, “It's still very early” and “it's good for the country to have lots of choices.”

While Perry has a good relationship with social conservatives, they have not always seen eye to eye. In 2007, Perry proposed requiring all school-aged girls to receive the HPV vaccine. Concerned Women for America was one of the groups that thought that the vaccine should carry an opt-in provision, in which parents would sign their kids up to receive the free vaccination, rather than Perry's proposed opt-out provision, in which all female school children would automatically receive the vaccine unless their parents explicitly requested that they not receive the vaccine.

Ann Hettinger, Concerned Women for America's state director of Texas, was instrumental in convincing Perry to change his proposal to an opt-in provision. When asked if Perry's original plans for the HPV vaccine would be an issue if he were to run for president, Nance replied, “It would've been an issue if he had not fixed it.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cancer; cwa; elections; gardasil; goverment2decide; hpv; noaccountability; nojudgment; palin; perry; perry2012; perry4gardasil; perry4merck; perryrecord; presidentromney; rinoperry; romneycare; therinoperry; vaccine; womensvote
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

To prevent dupes, please do not alter the published title, thanks.


21 posted on 07/08/2011 6:34:57 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: free me

Amen!!

This is the accurate version. Shame on CWA for white washing the
real story.


22 posted on 07/08/2011 6:40:21 AM PDT by Lesforlife (Fighting to end abortion in my lifetime!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In an interview printed Wednesday by CNN, Carter said that Jon Huntsman is “very attractive to me personally.”

Good enough (bad enough) for me.

23 posted on 07/08/2011 6:40:31 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When I look at this issue I see a six thousand dollar campaign gift from the pharma company behind Guardasil and Perry backing down under pressure and changing his position.

If his name were Romney people would be calling it a flip-flop.


24 posted on 07/08/2011 6:42:21 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
wagglebee: ".....They want to give it to all girls in an effort to promote promiscuity...."

Cincinatus' Wife" "Who is "they?""

"They" would include everyone mandating the drug,
and the individuals who supported 'they who mandated the drug (Perry's EO)'
and the individuals who protected 'they who mandated the drug',
and the individuals and PerryBOTs who are attempting
to cover up the existence of the Executive Order mandate
for the drug.

25 posted on 07/08/2011 6:44:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Psalm 73
From what I've seen of him he's a Romney clone - nice presentation but takes whatever position would garner him the most support.

Texas doesn't have any analog of RomneyCare™ That is the 800# gorilla in the room.

Texas also has by design a weak Governor while having a strong Lt Governor (a role that Perry once held), so comparing governorships is rather silly.

While Perry went to conservative Texas A&M, worked a cotton business and became a captain in the USAF, Romney went to Marxist Stanford then religious haven BYU before spreading Mormonism in France for a few years before landing a great gig with Bill Bain where he was an outstanding protege leading to Romney being one of the best in the field in handling leveraged buyouts.

Perry's life is one brought from the cotton fields of Texas, the agricultural school of A&M and the military of the united States before being what appears to be a life long politician who has a record of fiscal austerity. I am sure that his Rolodex is full of politicians and friends of politicians.

Romney is the stereotypical East coast liberal silver spoon, a veritable rise from riches to riches. His religion forces him to live a structured and highly regulated life. His ambition drives him to succeed in terms of rising to the top. Romney has demonstrated that he is one of the best in dealing with highly in debt, managerially screwed up organizations that can be brought back to life with the proper management. As a liquidator, Romney's track record is one of destroying jobs - in a good way, that is, cutting dead-wood while finding and nurturing the profitable branches.

The problem with Romney outside of that obscenity of RomneyCare™ is that he is one man against an army of literally millions who diametrically oppose pruning government. In order for Romney to succeed, he would have to have a major retrofit of every department, replacing high level bureaucrats who have long established fiefdoms and empires with private, pro-business, top drawer managers who are willing to work themselves out of a job. Good luck with that. Those kind of people are in high demand in the private sector and a G-15 paycheck without stock options and nine figure performance bonuses isn't going to attract the best and brightest - only the most craven, criminal and corrupt.

Given the reality of the political landscape, Romney would be a failed and frustrated Executive. Reagan lamented that his ideological influence only went Secretary level deep as the entrenched bureaucracy knew that they would be there long after Reagan & Co. left. Romney faces several orders of magnitude worse than same problem. Prediction: EPIC FAIL.

Perry, on the other hand, is a creature of the bureaucracy, after his first successful election, all he knows is politics, and a very good-ol-boy network that is typical Texas, where the GOP may have the majority in the House but they elected a pervert, stab-you-in-the-back Progressive as their Speaker. Perry knows how to work with a highly dysfunctional Legislature that meets every two years to engineer more insanity to foist on their fellow Texans - and yet Texas still continues on.

I'm not a Perry fan, I would prefer a Palin since her Rolodex is probably much more in tune with Conservatives than Perry's or Romney's. OTOH, Perry is no friend of George Bush, some would say that their relationship is "complex" in that while the Bush family clearly hates Perry Perry is not antagonistic to the Bushes. I don't know what Perry's Cabinet would look like, maybe second benchers of the same team, maybe something surprising.

Removing Perry from Texas would likely/hopefully get us Greg Abbott who presently is the best Attorney General, speaking in terms of character and integrity, in the US right now. Texas doesn't deserve the likes of Abbott, but would certainly benefit, and the US doesn't deserve the likes of Perry, but would certainly benefit.

26 posted on 07/08/2011 6:45:39 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Diogenesis; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; ...
Who is "they?"

The groups pushing Gardasil.

You can pretend it's not a big deal all you want, but the facts aren't on your side:

Merck Researcher Admits: Gardasil Guards Against Almost Nothing

(UK) Cervical cancer jab would 'make girls more promiscuous'

Judicial Watch uncovers FDA records detailing 16 new deaths tied to Gardisil

Gardasil Researcher Speaks Out ("Public Should Receive More Complete Warnings")

Gardasil Linked to Nerve Disorder Cervical Cancer Vaccine May Raise Risk of Guillain-Barre Syndrome

Wichita Teen Says She's Dying From Vaccine[Gardasil]

HPV Vaccine Causes 21 Deaths and Counting - CDC Study Launched

FDA: 28 Miscarriages No Reason to Reexamine Gardasil

Deaths Associated with HPV Vaccine Start Rolling In, Over 3500 Adverse Affects Reported

Drug Conglomerate funds campaign to impose Mandatory HPV Vaccine on Young Girls

There are plenty more, but this should give you a general idea.

Perry may have changed his mind, but he bought this thing hook, line and sinker two years ago.

27 posted on 07/08/2011 6:47:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Sidebar Moderator; All
For those confused by the Sidebar Moderators comment, I had titled this thread:

"Concerned Women for America: Bachmann, Palin, Perry and the Gardasil HPV vaccine non-issue"

And then I emphasized the HPV Gardasil vaccine and Rick Perry's EO in my opening post.

This issue has a few FReepers spamming every thread about Rick Perry. I felt it was proper to point out what the Concerned Women for America were saying about this issue and how they viewed it.

I was hoping to draw FReepers to this thread and give them a dedicated forum where we could hash this out and others could jump in or just "listen."

Unfortunately the title read like a slam on Michele Bachmann (which was not a position I would promote).

The title of the thread now is correctly the title of the linked article from where I pulled the body of the thread.

I apologize to the Sidebar Moderator.

I hope this helps.

28 posted on 07/08/2011 6:48:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; wagglebee

>>> They want to give it to all girls in an effort to promote promiscuity..

Did we run out of tequila ?


29 posted on 07/08/2011 6:50:10 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry was in favor of the whore’s vaccine. I do not want my girls to receive the whore’s vaccine since they are not whores.


30 posted on 07/08/2011 6:51:33 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m a social conservative. I’m looking for the candidate who can win, and I’m not convinced that Bachmann is that candidate.

That said, if she were the nominee, I would vote for her.

I prefer Perry or Palin, neither of whom is running.


31 posted on 07/08/2011 6:52:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: nina0113; Psalm 73

The media and the republican establishment like Huntsman.

That’s enough for me to dismiss him as the right guy for the job.


32 posted on 07/08/2011 6:56:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Seems the "thought police" are getting more bold...you can't even have an opinion or preference anymore without being accused of some kind of "-ism".

Probably a lot of the "Christian Right" are waiting on Sarah Palin to join the fray...but I'm trying to figure out how preferring Palin over Bachmann is "SEXism"? I mean, they both look like women to me.

But the press and the left are driving any point to try and stay away from the points that count...the issues and the demise of America under barack obama.

The media plays this game every election cycle, trying to start internal strife and in-fighting among our own candidates. But I think both Palin and Bachmann are way ahead of the media frat boys and are handling it with class and dignity - two words that are lost on liberals.

obamatron has a history of using his time and money to destroy his competition as he has no creditials or track record of his own to use to win the right way.

Our television-drama nation now falls for pretty speech - even if it is teleprompted - as opposed to taking 15 minutes to actually study someone's record. Fifteen minutes is all it would take to get the low-down on obama...everything he's ever done is low down.

It's funny that a leftist group of ugly women accuse the Christian right of "sexism", yet the left doesn't even have a female candidate anywhere near running for president on their side.

As usual, liberal projection dictates that they accuse the opposition of what they, themselves, are guilty of.
33 posted on 07/08/2011 7:11:02 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: impimp
Perry was in favor of the whore’s vaccine. I do not want my girls to receive the whore’s vaccine since they are not whores.

Hate to break the news to you but it is not at all unusual for parents who spout nonsense about their girls sexual habits to be surprised that the boys that they know think quite differently! You may say they are not whores, but that may not be the final word...

34 posted on 07/08/2011 7:14:55 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver
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To: FrankR
As usual, liberal projection dictates that they accuse the opposition of what they, themselves, are guilty of.

That can never be said enough.

Bump!

35 posted on 07/08/2011 7:15:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

” Christian Right leaders are not rallying behind Michele Bachmann for president and it’s “probably” because they are sexist, contends a writer for Time. “

Will save that quote in case Bachman is the nominee and Time trashes her.


36 posted on 07/08/2011 7:15:58 AM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: tlb; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Lesforlife
Did we run out of tequila ?

Are you suggesting that the agenda to sexualize teenage girls is positive?

37 posted on 07/08/2011 7:18:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Cincinatus' Wife
The HPV vaccine has a good rate of success, and if chosen voluntarily, I see no problem with it. Since it directly attacks a particular virus, it is in no way parallel with something like a condom that sends the message of free sexuality.

It is instead a means of protecting women from HPV WHEREVER THEY MIGHT ENCOUNTER IT....even from their husbands who might be totally unaware they carry it.

Moreover, there is some research that suggests HPV is not always sexually transmitted:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2256864 However, the high prevalence of the infection among the virginal women indicated that transmission of HPV by nonsexual modes was common. Genital HPV infection is ubiquitous and in women is not exclusively a venereal disease.

Human papillomavirus (HPV) infection of the genital tract was assessed in 205 women and 111 spouses by clinical exam, colposcopy and histological examination of punch biopsies. All were patients referred to the colposcopy clinic: 43 were virgins and 162 women were sexually experienced. Among the virgins 51.2% had colposcopic evidence of HPV infection, 9 had microwarts and 1 had condylomata acuminata. 86.4% of these were confirmed histologically. Among the sexually active women 69.1% had colposcopic evidence of HPV, 20.5% had microwarts and 4.5% had condylomata acuminata. 37 had neoplasia. 85.7% of Hpv cases were confirmed histologically, as were 8.0% of women without evidence of HPV. 77.1% of the 96 husbands whose wives were free of infection had HPV. Since many of the virgins, including 2 daughters of a woman with cervical cancer, had genital warts, HPV is probably transmitted by formites as well as by sexual contact.

A "formite", as I understand it is an object.

38 posted on 07/08/2011 7:19:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I can't see the Christian Right or any other block getting in bed with any candidate at this early stage of the primary season. When I am asked who I will vote for I say, “don't know, too early!”
39 posted on 07/08/2011 7:21:02 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver; impimp
Well I hate to break it to YOU but some parents actually have an excellent relationship with their girls. I did. And it infuriated my daughter when people like you said it wasn't true. She's now 26 and still gets hot under the collar when someone suggest otherwise.

If your relationship with your daughter/s isn't open and honest I'm very sorry for you but that doesn't mean the rest of us have the same kind of trials.

40 posted on 07/08/2011 7:23:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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