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To: rintense
Not even the Tea Party backed Haworth.  And who was keeping in direct contact with the Tea Party so much so, that the Tea Party didn't endorse either candidate?  You do know right?

But, what Rabs is essentially saying is Palin DOES have pull, so much that she convinced otherwise conservatives to vote for a RINO. IOW, the people of Arizona can't think for themselves, especially with a RINO like McCain in office.  Rintense, Arizona has open primaries.  It wasn't just the Conservatives by any means, voting in that election and you should know that.  The support for McCain didn't just appeal to Republicans who were unsound, it also enticed Democrats to vote for McCain over their own guy.

And lets not pretend Haworth was the perfect candidate. He had LOTS of baggage as well. But, even he didn't fault Palin for campaigning for McCain.  Rintense, what you are defending goes against everything I believe as a Conservative.  You are buttressing the idea that it's perfectly okay to support a man that would do harm to your nation, rather than support a man that would be better.

Please enlighten us what J. D. Hayworth was charged with and convicted of.  There was a lot of inuendo about what he had done, but he was not charged or convicted of anything.

While you're at it, please explain to me under what cirumstances you would back the worst RINO I have ever known, over a respected man like Hayworth.

Anyone blaming Palin for McCain's re-election isn't living in reality.

For me it's not whether she actually got him re-elected so much as that she actually went out and worked to get him re-elected.  This man was a fellow traveler of Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, and some of the worst Leftist groups this nation has ever seen.  If she's willing to back a Soros fellow traveler, what else is she willing to do?

That is your idea of a dyed in the wool Conservative?  Really?

About all anyone has to do these days, is claim that someone did them a favor, and then it's okay for them to back anyone they want for election.  And then good Conservatives can pat them on the back and give them a pass.  Is that about it?

In your heart you know better than this.

Now it's time to destroy Bachmann's credibility just as some hacks did with J. D. Hayworth.  I'll have none of it.

102 posted on 06/26/2011 5:35:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Oh I see, so this is about Palin and Bachmann. You are buttressing the idea that it's perfectly okay to support a man that would do harm to your nation, rather than support a man that would be better.

You need to pay attention. Cite one instance where I supported Palin campaigning for McCain. You can't. Because I, as well as most Palin supporters, can't stand McCain and didn't like Palin's support of him. Now, you tell me... should we abandon candidates who *gasp* support a RINO? Because is so, there isn't ONE out there today who should be supported- and that includes Michele Bachmann who endorsed McCain/Palin.

And before you do the 'it was either them or Obama' stuff, go read your own words about going against everything that you believe.

Please enlighten us what J. D. Hayworth was charged with and convicted of. There was a lot of inuendo about what he had done, but he was not charged or convicted of anything.

And please enlighten us as to WHERE I said he was? Since when is baggage a conviction? Wow. Stretch much?

For me it's not whether she actually got him re-elected so much as that she actually went out and worked to get him re-elected. This man was a fellow traveler of Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, and some of the worst Leftist groups this nation has ever seen. If she's willing to back a Soros fellow traveler, what else is she willing to do?

That is your idea of a dyed in the wool Conservative? Really?

About all anyone has to do these days, is claim that someone did them a favor, and then it's okay for them to back anyone they want for election. And then good Conservatives can pat them on the back and give them a pass. Is that about it?

See point one. Again, give me the name of ONE CONSERVATIVE who has never endorsed a RINO.

In your heart you know better than this.

You don't know me or my heart. In fact, however sincere your claim, it's kinda creepy.

Now it's time to destroy Bachmann's credibility just as some hacks did with J. D. Hayworth.

Oh really. Seems to me Haworth's cred was shot when he couldn't win re-election to his own seat.

As for Michele, I trust she can take care of herself. Though she has slid down my list with questionable choices as of late, I'd still vote for her.

But I find it so rich you're getting your panties in a twist because a 'good conservative' like Bachmann is being vetted, yet, you join the ranks of PDSers when it comes to Palin.

I have news for you. Palin is not perfect. And neither is Bachmann.

109 posted on 06/26/2011 6:05:55 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Running list of conservatives/2012 candidates who endorsed RINOs (or kooks):

Hunter endorsed Huckabee
Tancredo endorsed Romney
DeMint endorsed Romney
Pawlenty endorsed McCain
Thompson endorsed McCain
Newt endorsed Scozzafava
Santorum endorsed Specter
Rubio endorsed Huckabee
Santorum endorsed Romney
Scott Brown endorsed Rommey
Ann Coulter endorsed Romney
Mark Levin endorsed Romney
Dick Cheney endorsed McCain
Thune endorsed McCain
Jindahl endorsed McCain
Huckabee endorsed McCain
Bachmann endorsed McCain/Palin
Ron Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin
Ron Paul endorsed ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney
Ron Paul endorsed Bob Barr
Paul Ryan endorsed McCain for President
Rick Perry (Governor-Texas) endorsed Rudy Guiliani
Peter King endorsed Guliani
GWB endorsed Spector
Santorum endorsed Spector
DeMint endorsed Graham
JD Haworth endorsed McCain
John Thune endorsed McCain
Sheriff Joe Arpaio endorsed Romney
Coburn endorsed McCain
McConnell endorsed McCain
Fred Thompson endorsed McCain for Senate 2010
DeMint endorsed Graham

113 posted on 06/26/2011 6:10:23 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: DoughtyOne
just as some hacks did with J. D. Hayworth.

Hayworth destroyed himself. How he could even contemplate running for office in the Tea Party era, knowing full well that the government money informercial was out there, c'mon.

And Bachmann is starting to take the same kind of path. She has to know full well that a disclosure form is out there saying she got money from that farm - a simple denial just isn't going to cut it. But go ahead, blame the critics with Bachmann just like you're blaming JD's self-immolation on the critics. End result will be the same.

157 posted on 06/27/2011 3:30:15 AM PDT by dirtboy
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