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You need to pay attention. Cite one instance where I supported Palin campaigning for McCain. You can't. Because I, as well as most Palin supporters, can't stand McCain and didn't like Palin's support of him. Now, you tell me... should we abandon candidates who *gasp* support a RINO? Because is so, there isn't ONE out there today who should be supported- and that includes Michele Bachmann who endorsed McCain/Palin.

And before you do the 'it was either them or Obama' stuff, go read your own words about going against everything that you believe.

Please enlighten us what J. D. Hayworth was charged with and convicted of. There was a lot of inuendo about what he had done, but he was not charged or convicted of anything.

And please enlighten us as to WHERE I said he was? Since when is baggage a conviction? Wow. Stretch much?

For me it's not whether she actually got him re-elected so much as that she actually went out and worked to get him re-elected. This man was a fellow traveler of Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, and some of the worst Leftist groups this nation has ever seen. If she's willing to back a Soros fellow traveler, what else is she willing to do?

That is your idea of a dyed in the wool Conservative? Really?

About all anyone has to do these days, is claim that someone did them a favor, and then it's okay for them to back anyone they want for election. And then good Conservatives can pat them on the back and give them a pass. Is that about it?

See point one. Again, give me the name of ONE CONSERVATIVE who has never endorsed a RINO.

In your heart you know better than this.

You don't know me or my heart. In fact, however sincere your claim, it's kinda creepy.

Now it's time to destroy Bachmann's credibility just as some hacks did with J. D. Hayworth.

Oh really. Seems to me Haworth's cred was shot when he couldn't win re-election to his own seat.

As for Michele, I trust she can take care of herself. Though she has slid down my list with questionable choices as of late, I'd still vote for her.

But I find it so rich you're getting your panties in a twist because a 'good conservative' like Bachmann is being vetted, yet, you join the ranks of PDSers when it comes to Palin.

I have news for you. Palin is not perfect. And neither is Bachmann.

Oh I see, so this is about Palin and Bachmann.

You are buttressing the idea that it's perfectly okay to support a man that would do harm to your nation, rather than support a man that would be better.

You need to pay attention. No, you need to pay attention to what issues you raise, if you don't want to deal with the blow-back. You tried to slam Hayworth, stating that he couldn't even beat the likes of McCain. There's a whole lot of garbage that goes along with that statement, and you didn't touch on any of it, did you. You know damned well Palin announced for McCain, campaigned for him, and interceded on behalf of him with the Tea Party. So was it just Hayworth that ran a bad campaign, or was it that Palin and many RINO Republicans backed McCain over Hayworth? It was the latter and you damned well know it.

Cite one instance where I supported Palin campaigning for McCain. By trashing Hayworth for not being able to win of the likes of McCain, you forgot to mention Palin's actions connected to this election. You can't make one comment, then get excited when someone brings up a major player and issue that you didn't. Don't come to me trashing a Conservative for not being able to get elected, when you know damn well one of the major reasons he couldn't.

You can't. Because I, as well as most Palin supporters, can't stand McCain and didn't like Palin's support of him. Now, you tell me... should we abandon candidates who *gasp* support a RINO? Because is so, there isn't ONE out there today who should be supported- and that includes Michele Bachmann who endorsed McCain/Palin. McCain is not just a RINO. McCain is a Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, Tides Foundation, Leftist agenda introducing and passing anti-Conservative card-carrying Leftist RINO. As for Bachmann endorsing the ticket in 2008, that's a far cry from supporting a single man who has spent the last thirty years with his fingers dipped in s--t in Washington, D. C. What's more, you damn well know this.

And before you do the 'it was either them or Obama' stuff, go read your own words about going against everything that you believe. If you've got something to say Ace, say it.

Please enlighten us what J. D. Hayworth was charged with and convicted of. There was a lot of inuendo about what he had done, but he was not charged or convicted of anything.

And please enlighten us as to WHERE I said he was? Since when is baggage a conviction? Wow. Stretch much? You're an ass. You tossed out that baggage comment to make it sound as if Hayworth had done something either illegal, an offense of Congressional rules, or of such significance that he didn't deserve to be elected back to public office. You just didn't want to get called on it. Well, I'm calling you on it. What did J. D. Hayworth do that reaches the level of John McCain's whole thirty years Congressional and Senate activity on behalf of Leftist ideology?

That propagandist ploy didn't fly over my head, and I'm calling you on it.

For me it's not whether she actually got him re-elected so much as that she actually went out and worked to get him re-elected. This man was a fellow traveler of Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, and some of the worst Leftist groups this nation has ever seen. If she's willing to back a Soros fellow traveler, what else is she willing to do?

That is your idea of a dyed in the wool Conservative? Really?

About all anyone has to do these days, is claim that someone did them a favor, and then it's okay for them to back anyone they want for election. And then good Conservatives can pat them on the back and give them a pass. Is that about it?

See point one. Again, give me the name of ONE CONSERVATIVE who has never endorsed a RINO. How many Conservatives were backing McCain in 2010? How about you naming them? I know of only one.

In your heart you know better than this.

You don't know me or my heart. In fact, however sincere your claim, it's kinda creepy. You post this tripe against Hayworth and defending supporting McCain, but in your mind I'm the creepy one?

Now it's time to destroy Bachmann's credibility just as some hacks did with J. D. Hayworth.

Oh really. Seems to me Haworth's cred was shot when he couldn't win re-election to his own seat. Once again, who came to Arizona compaigned against him? Oh that's right, it was Sarah Palin.

As for Michele, I trust she can take care of herself. Though she has slid down my list with questionable choices as of late, I'd still vote for her.

But I find it so rich you're getting your panties in a twist because a 'good conservative' like Bachmann is being vetted, yet, you join the ranks of PDSers when it comes to Palin. You tried to score points based on my comment about what you know to be right in your heart, and you respond that was rather creepy. Then you talk about my underwear. In fact you even describe me as getting my panties in a twist. I'm trying to understand you envisioning that scene in a good way. So far, I'm not having any success. Are you sure you're on the right forum. Perhaps you ment to sign in to, "I like to think about your twisted panties dot.com"

Bachmann is not being vetted here. She is being hit with preposterous charges completely made up for the most part. Asking questions about conflicting information is reasoned. Making stuff up isn't.

I have news for you. Palin is not perfect. And neither is Bachmann.

I never said Bachmann was. I never even said she is my first choice either. I have said that I like her among others, and will continue to check her out over time. I still don't like the hit squad antics on this thread, and I'm going to defend her from that type of nonsense.