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Head of ATF Is Likely to Go
Fox News ^ | June 17, 2011

Posted on 06/18/2011 4:35:40 AM PDT by stevie_d_64

The Justice Department is expected to oust the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, according to people familiar with the matter, amid a troubled federal antitrafficking operation that has grown into the agency's biggest scandal in nearly two decades.

Moves toward the replacement of Kenneth Melson, acting ATF director since April 2009, could begin next week, although the precise sequence of events remains to be decided, these people said.

The shakeup shows the extent of the political damage caused by the gun-trafficking operation called Fast and Furious, which used tactics that allowed suspected smugglers to buy large numbers of firearms. Growing controversy over the program has paralyzed a long-beleaguered agency buffeted by partisan battles. The ATF has been without a Senate-confirmed director since 2006, with both the Bush and Obama administrations unable to overcome opposition from gun-rights groups to win approval of nominees.

In November, President Barack Obama nominated Andrew Traver, the head of the ATF's Chicago office, as permanent ATF director. The nomination stalled in the Senate after the National Rifle Association said Traver had a "demonstrated hostility" to the rights of gun owners.

Traver is set to travel to Washington on Tuesday to meet with Attorney General Eric Holder and Deputy Attorney General James Cole, the people said. The administration is weighing whether to name Traver as acting director or choose another interim chief while awaiting Senate action on his nomination, they said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; guncontrol; gunrunner; gunwalker; rkba
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To: Perdogg
Aways a good question but the DOJ has already gotten a judge of appropriate jurisdiction to rule that Jared is NUTZ.

That puts him out of the running for STAR WITNESS.

21 posted on 06/18/2011 5:51:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Impy
"....I could use me some alcohol and firearms"

So, you would support ethanol subsidies? (under the right conditions, I would too.)

22 posted on 06/18/2011 5:53:21 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: joe fonebone
NYT and WarshPost have a problem ~ they both engaged in the pre-coverup by publishing all sorts of stories about US guns being found in Mexico.

Their reporters could not have done those stories without knowing some of the details of how it turned out that those guns "walked" from AZ to Mexico.

Maybe they imagine that by becoming "witnesses" to the crime rather than mere "participants" we will forgive them.

23 posted on 06/18/2011 5:54:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stevie_d_64
Sorry, only Eric Holder head rolling would begin to satisfy the wrongs

The only way that will happen is to KEEP the PRESSURE ON

24 posted on 06/18/2011 5:57:41 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: stevie_d_64
ATF should be a store, not a federal agency. Bailey, Co:
25 posted on 06/18/2011 5:59:23 AM PDT by mirkwood (Palin 12)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

The “acting head” of ATF goes, yeah right. Acting head was probably a Bush hold over anyway. No, this did not stop at his office, no way. This HAD to be approved at some layer of the Justice Department. When doing this grand an operation, it is routine to seek counsel of DOJ before proceding. This is not a group of agents in some post of duty waking up and saying one day, hey, let’s let a huge number of firearms go to Mexico and see where they pop up. Even if someone said, let’s see where they pop up, where was the connection or cooperation of the Mexican authorities?...how about in DC under DOJ or even the Department of State. No number of rougue GS12 or 13 agents could ever pull this off without a large amount of pre planning, authorizations, and liaisons. This whole thing stinks right up to the Oval office. Get these guys before a ground jury and start the ball rolling in earnest...can you say Special Prosecutor?? There is a cancer on this administration, in fact in this administration it is a plague.


26 posted on 06/18/2011 5:59:23 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: stevie_d_64

Indeed, blame the guy, not the policy. That is what Zero is doing because the policy is for and by Zero.


27 posted on 06/18/2011 6:04:44 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Paladin2

No, I’m very much agin’ ethanol subsidies.


28 posted on 06/18/2011 6:07:16 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: muawiyah

They don’t need Jared, the got the weapon right? Trace the weapon.


29 posted on 06/18/2011 6:12:18 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Perdogg
Sportsman’s Warehouse outlet in Tucson, Ariz., on Nov. 30 2010.

That's been done. What cannot now be done is "trace Jared" and find out specifically why he got a gun and did the killings.

It wouldn't matter if that gun was traced all the way back to the Mesabi Iron Range!

Remember, the Brady Campaign is not interested in killers ~ just guns ~ so they've just never gotten on top of how you deal with the mentally incompetent.

30 posted on 06/18/2011 6:19:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stevie_d_64

This reads like it was written by the WH.

Fast and Furious killed people. Other people need to go to prison.

It doesn’t matter who Obama throws under the bus, the investigation needs to continue. In fact, I think it needs a special prosecutor, because the evidence seems to be pointing at Holder and Obama. (Too much redacting goin’ on.)


31 posted on 06/18/2011 6:33:11 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: stevie_d_64
i guess an indictment is tooo much to hope for...
32 posted on 06/18/2011 6:33:29 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Impy

Even for charcoal filtered, aged corn squeezin’s?


33 posted on 06/18/2011 6:43:36 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: joe fonebone

Self-styled journalists are trying to figure out if the unwritten rules would allow them to win an award for uncovering the facts that bring down a (half) black President and a black Attorney General.

Those rules are quite complex.

P. S. I’m making an assumption about Holder’s genealogy. His parents both come from a Barbados lineage.


34 posted on 06/18/2011 7:11:50 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Jerrybob

So only in 2011, if the acting director of the BATFE isn’t ousted, then we’re living in a police state? Since 2011?

How about the federal government telling farmers what crops they can plant, when they can plant, and how much of said crop they can plant? How about all of the illegal-at-idea federal firearms laws that are on the books (remember the Second Amendment?) How about the federal government regulating everything due to the Commerce Clause?

You’re saying that the federal government trying to make a case that a shotgun with a sawed-off barrel had no military purpose in 1934, when Miller was dead and nobody came to his defense, wasn’t out of bounds in that case?

Jerrybob, the US government enacted a police state a very, very long time ago. If the technology curve was 20 years earlier, we’d all be living in chains by now, because nobody would’ve realized what was happening before it was too late.


35 posted on 06/18/2011 7:50:56 AM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: cripplecreek

Charge the whole lot of those who knew the program was 311 billion over budget before the vote and hid it’s details.

And Charge Obama for hiding waivers until the day after his SOTUS.

Everything the Republicans charged came true.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/28/tawdry-details-of-obamacare-420960137/


36 posted on 06/18/2011 8:00:14 AM PDT by widdle_wabbit (Transparency, not so shovel ready.)
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To: cripplecreek; widdle_wabbit; All

Oops,wrong thread (good article).


37 posted on 06/18/2011 8:06:17 AM PDT by widdle_wabbit (Transparency, not so shovel ready.)
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To: stevie_d_64

“The Justice Department is expected to oust the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives”

How does the Justice department “oust” a guy who works at the Treasury dept? ATF is treasury.


38 posted on 06/18/2011 8:20:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: widdle_wabbit

Here is Travers, head of ATF in Chicago.

http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/11/robert-farago/missing-andrew-traver-tv-interview-surface/


39 posted on 06/18/2011 8:21:04 AM PDT by widdle_wabbit (Posting relevant material, sometimes in the correct thread, since 2003)
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To: joe fonebone

>>.the curtain is coming down, hard and fast..<<

Joe, where do you get that good coffee? Want to lay odds that not a single firing or demotion will result from this? Lots of transfers and ‘letters of counsel’ will be inserted into personnel files but no earthshaking trials for Holder or anyone else.


40 posted on 06/18/2011 8:32:55 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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