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Oakland Effect: Scholar says 'black violence is the unfinished business of the post slavery period'
MercuryNews.com ^ | 06/12/2011 | Scott Johnson

Posted on 06/12/2011 7:08:54 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: artichokegrower

OK, so how long these folks be needin to practice they violence on wyatt people to make ev’thin coo?

Just let us know when its done so we can resume defending our selves without offending some moron like you, Scott.


21 posted on 06/12/2011 7:32:30 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: artichokegrower

The real story is the story of the black mans oppression of the black man like in Africa.. and the white mans oppression of the white man like in Russia.. and the yellow mans oppression of the yellow man like in China.. and even the red mans oppression of the red man like in north america and the brown mans oppression of the brown man like in Mexico and Peru..

Tangentially there is the Elite Americans oppression of the Urban American.. like in Detroit, New York City, Chicago, and San Fransiko..


22 posted on 06/12/2011 7:34:01 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: blam

Slavery is the only explanation allowed for black crime, general lack of achievement, and other behavioral pathologies. It doesn’t really explain anything; it is just the only explanation permitted.


23 posted on 06/12/2011 7:34:04 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Walrus

Many blacks demand to be associated with the black racial identity, but then refuse to accept the bad that comes with it. Other blacks (a distinct minority within the minority) associate themselves with the *American* identity, are much better off for it, and see no reason to deny the reality of the failure of much of black inner city culture.

Until we can begin having a rational national conversation about these issues, we will continue to have significant black-white racial friction. Part of it starts by whites repudiating White Guilt. I suggest any whites still harboring such start by awarding themselves an Absolution of White Guilt, which American talk show host Ken Hamblin (who happens to be black) used to pass out to everyone:

http://www.radical-conservative.org/certificate.html

Just cut’n’paste your name in over the web site name and print out.


24 posted on 06/12/2011 7:36:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: artichokegrower

Very good. Now explain Africa....


25 posted on 06/12/2011 7:37:38 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: blam

Just (finally) saw the Clint Eastwood movie “Grand Torino”. It was a slap of reality that echos his prediction of the future. Considering the news stories popping up recently about black on latino violence and “yut flash-mobs” doing everything from theft to assault, it was a very interesting look into Clint’s view of the world...


26 posted on 06/12/2011 7:40:14 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: artichokegrower
Oakland Effect: Scholar says 'black violence is the unfinished business of the post slavery period'

Incorrect, it will be the end of the instigators.

Let the violent socialist movement enjoy their dreams for a brief moment however, before reality strikes a final blow.

27 posted on 06/12/2011 7:41:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: artichokegrower
Yes there is a deliberate attempt to murder black people, especially black boys....


Its called abortion and liberalism and that makes REAL BLACK GENOCIDE the 800 pound gorilla in the room...

28 posted on 06/12/2011 7:43:46 AM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: Venturer

I was asked once if I was a racist. This question was posed to me by a black friend in the army. I asked him a question in return; “Is indifference hate?” Because if it is, then I am probably guilty. I simply cannot work up enough G.A.S. about black people as a race to hate them.


29 posted on 06/12/2011 7:44:35 AM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: himno hero

I always ask: just list me any invention that came from the sub Saharan africa continent?

Times up and sorry the blow gun does not count as it was in use in South America long ago too.

Beyond that, I am so tired of these race baiters. Slavery was ended and citizenship granted almost 150 years ago. Neither I nor any of my ancestors ever owned slaves as most were dirt poor when they arrived in the US without even knowing the language. They survived, learned and worked toward citizenship around the turn of 1900. Their decendants all have it better than they did as they ensured they got educations and worked for what they got. Same for my wifes family whose only step up from my ancestors is they spoke english when they arrived in the 1800’s. Why the disconnect. Someone else noted it in a prior post, the “Great Society” legislation of the less than great dummocrat party took away the family roots for all poor people most of whom were black. The damage cannot be overcome IMO. Families were demolished as the onus for welfare was to be single. The affects of these programs are now moving into the rest of society so I fear rather than it just being a problem for the black community, our whole society is denegrating into a society based on individuals preying on the remainder of a civilized society.


30 posted on 06/12/2011 7:45:43 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Twotone

In other words, he doesn’t want to hear anything about personal responsibility. You can’t make a living teaching people to act like adults, but in this day and age you can live like a king preaching about injustice and the evil white man. Hell, our own government will pay you to do just that. What crap.


31 posted on 06/12/2011 7:46:31 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: artichokegrower

Nice information on South Africa. Maybe they can make it into a brochure and distribute it to travel agencies.


32 posted on 06/12/2011 7:49:55 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: artichokegrower

What about the Democrat practice of incarcerating black people in a prison of economic dependency? Young black men are angry and violent because their fathers were never around thanks to the Democrat party and liberal ideology.

Not to mention the fact that liberal ideology has been instrumental in elevating immoral principles over moral ones within black communities.


33 posted on 06/12/2011 7:49:55 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (According to PDSers, anyone who doesn't hate Palin must be a Palin worshipper.)
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To: Texas Eagle
Have a tissue....ya’ jackwagon.
34 posted on 06/12/2011 7:49:59 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (The Sixteenth Amendment - a.k.a. - The Slavery Amendment)
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To: Nat Turner
It does make one wonder about the desire by liberals for state-sponsored abortion and the acceptance of illegal immigration.

Is the goal a shift in the racial mix of the low wage workforce?

If you ask candidly, employers will tell you which group makes the better workforce.

35 posted on 06/12/2011 7:57:10 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (The Sixteenth Amendment - a.k.a. - The Slavery Amendment)
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To: artichokegrower

“He said countries where whites have systematically oppressed people of color are those where so-called black-on-black violence is the worst. He points to South Africa, Nigeria. And to the U.S.”

Nigeria? Whose oppressing blacks in Nigeria?

“By way of comparison, it is interesting to note that South Africa, where institutionalized slavery and oppression ended just 15 years ago, has become one of the most crime-ridden and dangerous not-at-war countries in the world. Fifty people are murdered every day there, and the vast majority of them are blacks or other people of color killing other blacks and other people of color.”

This guy seems to have just invalidated his original thesis.


36 posted on 06/12/2011 7:59:49 AM PDT by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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To: Mouton

The people , as many as there are on that vast continent could never get organized long enough to demonstrate organized farming and a structured existence known as civilization.
Tribalism and warring has always had greater importance, let alone their total African philosophy that no one can get ahead of the chief... sorry chiefs... as many communities have a chief by day and another for the night.

Their failure is in their black persona and has been going on since the beginning of time. Anyone who points at the whiteman for the blacks failure is only a race baiter. They dont need a whiteman to fail! For them oppression starts at home in Africa!


37 posted on 06/12/2011 8:03:04 AM PDT by himno hero ("Armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"... Barrack Obama's vision)
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To: artichokegrower

Wouldn’t it be better to deal with the present and the future, rather than the past?


38 posted on 06/12/2011 8:03:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: tanuki

Is this guy a “affirmative action scholar” or a regular scholar? As Barry has taught us, it makes a difference.


39 posted on 06/12/2011 8:06:31 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: artichokegrower

5-6 generations later and still making excuses for their failures as a sub-culture.
Black on black violence has nothing to do with white people.


40 posted on 06/12/2011 8:11:11 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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