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The article has a lot more detail as well as charts and a graphic to ponder. It was written before Mitt Romney decided to bag the straw polls and before Newt Gingrich's staff fled.

Does Mitt Romney's decision not to participate in the early straw polls help Rick Perry? If Perry does participate in the straw polls how would he do? If Perry doesn't participate, well.... Romney didn't either.

1 posted on 06/11/2011 12:05:10 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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I’m finding it hard to get excited about Rick Perry when there are several better candidates.


2 posted on 06/11/2011 12:07:33 PM PDT by proudpapa
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Go Herman!


4 posted on 06/11/2011 12:10:09 PM PDT by Radio Free American? (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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It isn't hard to decipher who the establishment is pushing. No stories of how Perry can't win. No polls saying Perry shouldn't enter. No political pundits talking down his lack of education (non Ivy League School) or questioning his qualifications. All looks good, just like the favorable press John McCain received, until the campaign for the General Election began.
6 posted on 06/11/2011 12:18:15 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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The fact that southerners have had some degree of success has more to do with perceptions of southerners than it does with the mere fact of birth or choice of residence. Between Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, that perception being used as just another form of consultant image-manufacturing swag to slide another ringer into the Oval Office is at an end.

Southern conservatives as a group actually are genuine, authentic, down to earth, patriotic, say what they mean and mean what they say, religious and favor small government. Automatically assuming those traits of politicians angling for election has proved to be tenuous. Wonder why, lol? Consultants and advisors, so completely accustomed to and comfortable with candidates who have no substance, so style takes precedence.

OK, so let’s take Newt. What value he had, he blew out of the water in the Clinton era. Nowadays, he’s reduced to bean counting and remarrying in a vain search for another set of coattails that are not so incredulous as the southern evangelical ones he’s soiled.

Perry? Statist. Open borders. Trans-Texas Corridor, favored a Spanish company having eminent domain property seizure authority over native Texans. That crap don’t fly with southerners, I don’t care where the $#!&* was born or resides.

So, we’re forced to go right back to those qualities that attracted the electorate to southerners in the first place. Genuine, authentic, down to earth, patriotic, say what they mean and mean what they say, religious and favor small government.

Who fits that bill? Sarah Palin. The south is hers if she runs, imho.


8 posted on 06/11/2011 12:19:13 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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The New York Slimes so desperately wants ABP.

(Anybody but Palin)

10 posted on 06/11/2011 12:23:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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I heard yesterday that if Perry had lived in Massachusettes, "Romneycare" would be called "Perrycare".

The guy calling in to the talk show said Perry was a RINO just like Romney.

But, I'll keep and open mind and watch and listen...
13 posted on 06/11/2011 12:27:19 PM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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don’t sell the Southern Republicans short yet

What I think we (Americans) need is an antivenin to the poison that Obama has injected into our national bloodstream and that antivenin isn't Southern but Alaskan.

18 posted on 06/11/2011 12:44:46 PM PDT by tbpiper
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The White House has been occupied by a Southerner — counting the Massachusetts-born and decidedly patrician George H.W. Bush, who resided in Texas at the time he ran for office — in 30 of the past 46 years. I’m not sure this is entirely a coincidence....

Southern Democrats were felt to be more moderate, so they were more likely to be nominated or elected than Northern Democrats.

The other part of the equation is the Bush family. In Massachusetts-born, Connecticut-educated Texan George H.W. Bush, the different parts of his heritage -- North and South, East and West -- cancelled out, leaving him sort of a neutral or generic American, or at least that was the hope. Something of that legacy carried over for his son, who was a truer Texan than the father.

But would a really Southern Republican have an inside track on the nomination or election? Would Hailey Barbour have had a good chance at winning? I don't think so. Maybe Fred Thompson would have, because he was Hollywood as well as Tennessee and the two cancelled out (and because Tennessee isn't Deep South).

Perry probably does stand a very good chance at winning the nomination. What could louse up his career at some point is that Texans (in the eyes of many non-Texans) don't know when to quit with the Texanism. The time comes when voters want Texanness. But Texans provide more of it than a lot of the rest of the country can bear.

19 posted on 06/11/2011 12:45:55 PM PDT by x
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"Being a Southerner conveys certain advantages upon a Republican presidential candidate."

Or, being a far, far Northerner...(wink wink)

22 posted on 06/11/2011 12:49:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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GOP dimwits:
Rick Romney/Mitt Perry 2012
26 posted on 06/11/2011 12:58:06 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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Every time I see Perry's name come up I'm going to use the proper word - RINO!

Perry has been the douche against the turd sandwich in EVERY one of his re-election campaigns. All the people running against him have been losers.

I'm not alone here and Texans in the know will keep posting about Perry over and over. He did nothing on the border, nothing about illegals except give their children in-state tuition rates, allowed santuary cities, the insane Guardasil mess which was just embarrasing for him, the Trans-Texas Corridor land grab. He is no conservative. He can talk like one and get someone to help him write a book and speeches where he sounds conservative but it is just an act.

Perry has no other skills than to be in some political office. He is like Weiner, he needs a job where the taxpayers pay him. Because he has no other skills. He will say and act any way that is required so he can set his sails so he has the wind to his back. There is no there there when it comes to Rick Perry. He is all talk.

RINO RINO RINO RINO!!!!

28 posted on 06/11/2011 12:58:58 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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If only there was some way to guardasil Perry from becoming the nominee. Maybe the Texas Transit Corridor has some ideas.


29 posted on 06/11/2011 1:04:56 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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NYT PLEADS:ANYONE BUT PALIN!!!

Lmao.


31 posted on 06/11/2011 1:25:35 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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I have a prediction:

Perry will announce he is running — shortly afterwards Palin will announce she is NOT running and will endorse Perry.

It will be interesting to see the posts here then. :)


42 posted on 06/11/2011 2:08:23 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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I have a big problem with Nate Silver (the author) and his characterization of Rick Perry and Texas as a part of the South region of the US. Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico and Arizona are the Southwest. The SW states have a completely different heritage, history, geography, economy and and both historical and contemporary political drivers than the South.

If Mr. Silver can't get these fundamentals right, I doubt if he can get much of anything right. I demand that Nate Silver release his school transcripts from elementary through high school to prove he really took (and passed) some US history, geography and state history classes. Or maybe his formative education was limited to NYT crap.

As an Okie, I find Mr. Silver's premise flawed from the start and insulting.

61 posted on 06/11/2011 2:47:04 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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The so-called journalist made two errors just in the excerpt.

George W. Bush wasn’t born in Mass.; he was born in Conn.

Rick Perry is not a Southerner; he’s a Texan. Texas is not one of the Southern States, and neither are NM and AZ.

I guess to the elites in the Northeast everyone South of them lives in Southern States.


83 posted on 06/11/2011 7:42:42 PM PDT by octex
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Texas is for now a state we can take as a sure thing....

I dont care where they are from as long as they are a social conservative as well as the rest....

So kiss my butt Ann Coulter....you are off the reservation


88 posted on 06/12/2011 1:36:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (ok...so far I am Palin/Rubio 2012....i can explain easy..just ask)
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