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Dissenters in GOP rethink Electoral College [Fred Thompson joins those trying to destroy it]
The Washington Times ^ | June 2, 2011 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 06/03/2011 7:25:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

Popular-vote pact picks up steam

A once-sleepy movement that would upend the Electoral College, reverse two centuries of constitutional practice and elect presidents by direct popular vote has quietly picked up momentum in recent days, with Republican Party leaders scrambling to stanch a steady stream of defections by GOP state lawmakers to the plan.

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Under the idea introduced in 2006 by Stanford University consulting professor John Koza, states that join the NPV compact pledge to give all of their electoral votes to the presidential candidate who wins the national popular vote - even if a majority of the state’s voters supported another candidate. If a group of states with an accumulated tally of 270 electoral votes - the bare majority - sign on, the practical effect would be that the popular-vote winner instantly becomes the Electoral College winner as well.

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A rash of Republican state legislators have signed on as co-sponsors and even sponsors of this year’s spate of NPV bills. At a May 12 news conference, two prominent Republicans — former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee and former Gov. Jim Edgar of Illinois — endorsed the compact.

“We’re perpetually kind of rolling the dice in presidential elections in this country and risking electing someone who didn’t get the most votes,” Mr. Thompson said at the event. “It’s an unnecessary risk.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; US: Illinois; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: ec; elections; electoral; electoralcollege; electoralvote; electoralvotes; fred; fredthompson; illinois; jimedgar; nationalpopularvote; tennessee; thompson
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1 posted on 06/03/2011 7:25:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Insanity.WTF is wrong with Fred?


2 posted on 06/03/2011 7:28:34 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: EternalVigilance

In addition to the damage done by the marxist, this would be the final nail in the coffin.

Fred Thompson..and here I was ready to welcome him as a president. RETIRE you old geezer; preferrably to a country that does have mob rule.


3 posted on 06/03/2011 7:28:46 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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To: EternalVigilance

Fred Thompson: Mr. “States Rights”.
(Unless it’s critical for the Republic.)


4 posted on 06/03/2011 7:29:35 PM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: EternalVigilance

No! Direct popular vote will open the floodgates of massive voter fraud. At least the electoral college limits the incentive to continue stuffing Chicago, Baltimore, and NYC ballot boxes once the Dem has won that state. With this scheme, we can expect 100% turnout of living and dead voters in every corrupt district and long past the level of current Dem fraud. This must be stopped, and it’s a reason to go beyond the ballot box and peaceful protest in resisting the ruling class tyrants. The Constitution is not something to be worked around with a sleazy scheme.


5 posted on 06/03/2011 7:29:39 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: EternalVigilance

I can only say that I disagree with those that wish to fix something that ain’t broken.


6 posted on 06/03/2011 7:30:22 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Destruction of the electoral college is the institution of mass rule-——a form of “pure” democracy which destroyed ancient Greece and allows for tyranny of the masses. Here’s what will happen: a few large cities will forever govern this country. The Electoral College minimizes the effects of voter fraud now rampant in most major cities, most notoriously Chicago. Electoral voting contains the effects of regional voter fraud. Those advocating for its eradication are either ignorant or democrats.


7 posted on 06/03/2011 7:30:22 PM PDT by cthemfly25
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To: EternalVigilance

Fred Thompson should take up selling Viagra or reverse mortgages or something. He sure flopped as a presidential wannabe.


8 posted on 06/03/2011 7:30:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

This is nullification and it is inherently unconstitutional.


9 posted on 06/03/2011 7:31:06 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Outlaw Woman

I was never a fan. I just wasn’t comfortable with the way he sidestepped answers during debates.


10 posted on 06/03/2011 7:31:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: EternalVigilance

This is the world’s largest incentive for inner city vote fraud which is plenty bad already.


11 posted on 06/03/2011 7:31:41 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Farmer Dean

I would support a system where one candidate had to get 50% + 1 votes. If no candidate was able to, then there would be a runoff between the top two.

What REALLY sucks is our insane method of selecting our candidate. I would prefer a single day when ALL the candidates were voted on by ALL the states.


12 posted on 06/03/2011 7:33:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Two wolfs and a lamb vote on the dinner menu. Lamb is served.
13 posted on 06/03/2011 7:33:42 PM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin, driving the MSM crazy one day at a time.)
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To: EternalVigilance

FRed, if this is what you are thinking, you’re nuts!

Time to hang it up. Go take some Viagra and bang that young wife of yours and be happy.


14 posted on 06/03/2011 7:34:34 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Yossarian

This is precisely the nonsense known by the self-contradictory label of “states’ rights” - it is state legislatures illegally undertaking to defy the Constitution: nullification.


15 posted on 06/03/2011 7:34:44 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: EternalVigilance

Fred needs to blow his nose, clear his head me thinks.


16 posted on 06/03/2011 7:35:08 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t remember him being awake during the debates.


17 posted on 06/03/2011 7:35:39 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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To: EternalVigilance

NO! The same reasoning applies now that applied in Philadelphia in 1776. Large cities would carry everything, always. Small states would always be dragged along by the nose. Mob rule. It’s bad enough in California with that already — the libs load the big cities to the gills, all the people who work for a living do not have the votes to equal that.


18 posted on 06/03/2011 7:36:22 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Farmer Dean
Thompson is senile. Didn't you watch him slowly roll to a stop in 2008? He's done. This is a bad idea and he has no business adding his feeble two cents' worth. Fuhgeddaboudit.
19 posted on 06/03/2011 7:36:48 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: EternalVigilance
This is really sad. Nobody pays attention to the Tenth Amendment anymore. If the federal government tells a state to, say, change a stop sign, the state had better do it fast or risk penalties.

Now this. If the Electoral College is abolished, then why not get rid of the whole “states” idea altogether? Just call them provinces of the federal government.

20 posted on 06/03/2011 7:39:04 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern?, you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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