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You're forged! Trump declares Obama's birth certificate fake
World Net Daily ^ | May 25, 2011 | WND

Posted on 05/25/2011 7:02:17 PM PDT by conservativegramma

Billionaire businessman Donald Trump, who staged a weeks-long public campaign questioning Barack Obama's eligibility to be president during March and April – and rose to the top of the pool of potential candidates for the 2012 GOP nomination then as a result – says he believes the "birth certificate" released by the White House is forged.... Trump said his period of almost-complete silence on the issue following the release by the White House on April 27 of the image of a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the state of Hawaii was not because he was satisfied with the document....

During their conversation, Trump told Corsi his own computer expert told him at the release that it was a computer-generated document.

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To: Kleon
Your OCR theory has been debunked.

Here

and Here

361 posted on 05/26/2011 11:52:35 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Kleon
Your Google link is indeed the same pixel pattern. We don't know the history of that file though. I tried to find another pdf of the same book for comparison, but no go. I did find this which is a much better/cleaner scan. No dups on the title page though. I don't see any obvious dups in the few Korean files I perused either. I would be surprised if there weren't some though. More characters=higher chance of dups, relatively speaking.

"This is proof that these cloned letters are not evidence of tampering, but in fact a product of the OCR scan".

Depends on what you consider OCR. There's been a pile of confusion on this subject. And there would be no reason to use such a program on this COLB

Bottom line is this doc has so many things wrong with it, it defies logic.

362 posted on 05/26/2011 11:53:37 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward
I would be surprised if there weren't some though. More characters=higher chance of dups, relatively speaking.

Even if you take a small chunk of text, though, you will still find repeated letters at about the same distribution as the Obama birth certificate. For example, looking at just the first line of the first Korea document (1952-01-03a.pdf), the o's in "South Korea" are identical to the pixel, as are two of the three e's in "revealed."

I still think this is a common occurrence in PDF files of document scans, particularly those that have some enhancement to the text, be it OCR or something else. It's common enough for me to conclude that it is not a sure sign of tampering.

363 posted on 05/26/2011 12:11:18 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Mr. K; Celerity

Actually, he said he’d visited 57 states and had one more to go.

57 + 1 = 58

The one he wasn’t allowed by his staff to visit is Alaska.


364 posted on 05/26/2011 12:33:52 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Kenny Bunk
The more COLBs and BCs floating around, the more distractions. The more distractions, the more arguing amongst the birthers. The more arguments, the more splitting. The more splitting...
365 posted on 05/26/2011 12:37:03 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Seizethecarp
... Trump, are waiting for the dust to settle on expert assessment as to whether Obama’s new BC is a forgery.

Could be but surely he can multi-task. Why not charge on with the school records like he hinted about before the big silence.

366 posted on 05/26/2011 12:41:11 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: conservativegramma

These fools trying to claim that the forgery is not a forgery don’t care that their lies are lies.

They keep repeating them anyway, leftist style.


367 posted on 05/26/2011 12:43:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: dennisw

Trump can beat Bammy Boy either way.
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Did you forget the sarcasm tag? Not a chance in hell he can beat Obongo. Are you kidding me?


368 posted on 05/26/2011 12:46:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

wondered how long until you showed up to try to do damage control for your pal Obongo.


369 posted on 05/26/2011 12:46:54 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Cobra64

Get the emotional opinion of Trump out of the way and appreciate Trump’s objective.
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I have no emotional opinion of Trump but I don’t trust him and here is why. I do NOT believe the fake long form surfaced because of Trump. I think Trump was in on it and set it up. I hope I’m wrong, but that whole thing, the way it went down, just seemed the timing was too perfect. I’m not buying it.


370 posted on 05/26/2011 12:50:04 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: conservativegramma

I feel exactly the same way however, I don’t trust Trump. First he demanded the long form, it was produced, fake, but produced. Now Trump says fake, the forensic experts battle it out and if Trump is a trojan horse, he concedes says it is real and then what?


371 posted on 05/26/2011 12:53:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: conservativegramma
So you define the word "debunked" as having a couple of college kids posting their opinion on YouTube? Very amusing.

If that's the case then I guess 9/11 really was an inside job, after all there's tens of thousands of bratty college kids who can talk you through how a controlled demolition works.

372 posted on 05/26/2011 12:56:32 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: GunRunner; conservativegramma

GR, you either have been absent on the threads links and copied material with experts proving beyond all doubt that it’s a forgery; in which case you should study up to learn something.

Or you’re here to support Zero for reasons known only to yourself.

There is no third choice; unless you’re just a regular idiot that likes to disrupt solely for the fun of it.


373 posted on 05/26/2011 12:59:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kleon

Those Korean pdfs and even the books would be items where a conventional OCR, or some similar variant, would be utilized. Most of the pdfs I found of your example title had been fully OCR converted. But comparing it to Obama’s COLB is apples and bowling balls.

It simply makes no sense after having gone through such absurd steps to insure the COLB arrives to the White House unsullied. They hand it over to some intern hack to scan in using whatever protocol applies to the daily mail. It’d be like me paying max dollars to ship my Lamborghini safely to my doorstep, so I can park it on MLK BL.

If you want to believe that something might/maybe/could happen, IF, this, that, or the other thing also happens, feel free. I for one, am done making excuses for Obama.


374 posted on 05/26/2011 1:02:05 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: little jeremiah
You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

I've posted the original scan (the one with the blue background not the certified copy with the green background) multiple times and challenged anybody to reproduce the graphical inconsistencies on that version.

So far no one's been able to do it.

You're welcome to take a crack at it though:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ap_obama_certificate_dm_110427.pdf

Everyone in the conspiracy theory crowd has been analyzing the certified copy with the green background. The artifacts, aliasing, and layers are a byproduct of a document being scanned into an optimized PDF. National Review even replicated the effect.

375 posted on 05/26/2011 1:09:45 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; LucyT; little jeremiah; Las Vegas Ron

Lame, really lame. By the way, sometimes they catch the rabbit. Ask Alladin at the Jacksonville race track.


376 posted on 05/26/2011 1:15:58 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: atc23

BINGO!!


377 posted on 05/26/2011 1:18:13 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: bgill
“Could be but surely he can multi-task. Why not charge on with the school records like he hinted about before the big silence.”

School records don't directly prove ineligibility and can be protected by privacy in a way that birth records cannot, IMO.

Trump was acting as though nonexistence of an HI Obama BC was a certainty. That was Trump's Ace in the hole. That is what emboldened him, IMO, but he got trumped or appeared to be trumped. Without his “Ace” he was properly deflated until and unless a BC forgery can be proved in the court of public opinion, and he had no choice but to back off.

378 posted on 05/26/2011 1:20:37 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: GunRunner

Oh, such a “conspiracy theory” to doubt the veracity of the faux documents.

Such a nice little lemming you are.


379 posted on 05/26/2011 1:21:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: stormer

Maybe you should be concerned about yourself.


380 posted on 05/26/2011 1:29:59 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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