Posted on 05/16/2011 7:39:44 PM PDT by conservativegramma
NEW YORK Newly unearthed information about Hawaii's procedure for numbering birth records at the time Barack Obama was born casts further doubt on the authenticity of the short-form and long-form birth certificates published online with the president's authority.
Details about the registration procedure are significant, because some analysts have wondered how Obama could have been issued a registration number that is higher than the numbers of the published birth certificates of Susan and Gretchen Nordyke, which were registered three days later than the president's. But a 1955 article by Charles Bennett, Hawaii's registrar general in 1961, and George Tokuyama, chief of the registration and records section for the state's Department of Health, stated birth certificates were numbered immediately upon acceptance by the registrar-general.
When the local registrar was satisfied the birth certificate was complete, the registrar-general filed it by placing the filing date on the birth certificate and assigning it a number.
The date was recorded by an ink stamp that manually adjusted the date in the format month-day-year.
The certificate number appears to be applied with a Bates numbering stamp that advanced automatically by one number each time the stamp was used.
Bennett's and Tokuyama's description of this procedure shows that birth certificates were numbered upon acceptance by the registrar-general, and there was no provision that would allow an accepted birth certificate to be put in a pile for three days before a number was stamped on it.
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Bet the number on Virginia’s bc is from another baby who died. Evil work from the highest office.
Thanks for that on baby Herbert’s bc. Must have missed it. That’s brilliant. Having the tech students prove birthers are crazy and then prove we were right all along.
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2011/may/11/sdqt-schooled/#
Could be...but if the parents walked in there on the 29th of August, demanding their daughter’s BC, and an amendment to the death certificate so they could bury her under the name they had wanted to give her, I can imagine the HDOH raising a document then and there.
On the 29th of August: 443 numbers higher than the one she would have had - if it hadn’t disappeared.
1) was the switcheroo made in Aug. ‘61 to please Grandma Dunham so her supposed grandson, born who knows where, would be a US citizen?
2) if it was done in Aug. ‘61, then the new and improved one would have been on file all those years and that info would have automatically been transferred onto a true short form without the need for all the delay, delay, delay, and finally a very sloppy fake one made.
I still want proof positive from an original newspaper that his announcement was published rather than rely on an iffy microfilm pic. I hear the original paper has been found but nothing further.
I doubt the Dunhams had anything to do with it, neither SAD nor zero had to be in Hawaii, they didn't even have to be anywhere together. It's possible this was done to give an unidentified child an identity. Frank Marshall Davis was at that time active in an organisation FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE FOREIGN BORN. He 'worked' to prevent commununists being deported. Check Wiki. Keeping his eye on births and deaths would have been right up his ally...
2) if it was done in Aug. 61, then the new and improved one would have been on file all those years and that info would have automatically been transferred onto a true short form without the need for all the delay, delay, delay, and finally a very sloppy fake one made.
I doubt they felt secure in releasing it WITH THE NUMBER that belonged to another birth. Thus, the first you saw was the COLB with the black rectangle. And just perhaps the 'replacement' data from the August 8th lodgement wasn't quite 'suitable' - they weren't looking that far ahead. Maybe it showed 'born in Kenya'
I still want proof positive from an original newspaper that his announcement was published rather than rely on an iffy microfilm pic. I hear the original paper has been found but nothing further.
The copies at the Library of Congress were apparently quite pristine and original. I've seen nothing that says anyone found the original newspapers... Anyway, it's just my pet theory. One step follows another and the result is a birth announcement. That was the objective.
Of course, that puts paid to any idea that she was his mother...which most people just cannot come to grips with. Her motherhood in ‘Dreams’ is the foundation of the myth.
Didn't need to be if the parents showed up at the HDOH demanding her BC so they could finalize the funeral arrangements under her intended given name, two weeks after her death - on the 29th of August. That's when her death certificate was amended to show her name as Virginia, not Tomyio. The funeral home could hardly bury her and show her record as Virginia if all they had was a death certificate in the name of HER FATHER.
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