Nordyke numbers expose Obama document fraud?

World Net Daily ^ | May 16, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

[conservativegramma]

NEW YORK – Newly unearthed information about Hawaii's procedure for numbering birth records at the time Barack Obama was born casts further doubt on the authenticity of the short-form and long-form birth certificates published online with the president's authority.

Details about the registration procedure are significant, because some analysts have wondered how Obama could have been issued a registration number that is higher than the numbers of the published birth certificates of Susan and Gretchen Nordyke, which were registered three days later than the president's. But a 1955 article by Charles Bennett, Hawaii's registrar general in 1961, and George Tokuyama, chief of the registration and records section for the state's Department of Health, stated birth certificates were numbered immediately upon acceptance by the registrar-general.

When the local registrar was satisfied the birth certificate was complete, the registrar-general filed it by placing the filing date on the birth certificate and assigning it a number.

The date was recorded by an ink stamp that manually adjusted the date in the format month-day-year.

The certificate number appears to be applied with a Bates numbering stamp that advanced automatically by one number each time the stamp was used.

Bennett's and Tokuyama's description of this procedure shows that birth certificates were numbered upon acceptance by the registrar-general, and there was no provision that would allow an accepted birth certificate to be put in a pile for three days before a number was stamped on it.

[cynwoody]

there is 52 death records in 1962 for barack obama

Cuckoo site, obviously. They want a credit card, but I don't pay for internet content. And theirs is obviously worthless in any case, since their record counts are patently absurd (go check the SSDI — there is exactly one record for any Obama in the whole United States, 215-71-0752, from Halloween, 2004), and they admit as much in the gray fine print: Also, the names, locations and event dates for searches may be widened if no results can be found for the individual specified.

[noinfringers2]

I keep wondering if and when there is anyone or persons or mechanism to put all the bc info in a package such that some final resolution is made. This is not to suggest that all the stuff from both/all sides should be discarded as of no significance to USA history or future.

[jersey117]

That will happen when someone on his own team turns on him.... someone has to have the goods on him.

[22cal]

Natural Born (jus soli AND jus sanguinus) is a requirement for President in my view. Else why did the Chester Arthur feel compelled to lie and hide facts about his birth, including burning all his personal papers before his death? It was recently discovered that his father was not a citizen until Arthur was 14 years old, so Arthur was not qualified. To me it is irrational to discount such historical evidence as such behavior which points to the meaning of Natural Born.

That does not mean I think Obama will be removed or that this issue is a winning one in 2012, but I am fond of intellectual honesty.

[noinfringers2]

I don’t expect the Clintons to do this as they and Obama are under the same cabal controls.

[Brown Deer]

0bama is "half American, half-African and ALL Marxist and he loathes the constitution. Bears no allegience to it whatsoever. He bragged about that up front in his book and in his campaign. Americans of the Democrat persuasion were just too dumb to believe him. He’s exactly the type of foreigner that our founders feared when they included the Natural Born Citizen requirement in the constitution."

[cynwoody]

Very true. But it doesn't change his eligibility.

You have to rely on the electorate to keep traitors out of the Oval Office. The Constitution can't do it. Hell, Ayers and Dohrn are eligible beyond any doubt under the Constitution.

[dennisw]

It is either a fake or not a fake

[bgill]

What the heck does that link have to do with NBC?

[bgill]

What the heck does that link have to do with NBC?

[Faith]

Welcome back!
(From a 13-year FReeper)

[Brown Deer]

Do you call it a fake?

Don't you?

The birthdate of Barack Hussein 0bama was June 18, 1934 until he went to Harvard in 1962. All newspaper articles and INS documention show that he was 25 years old when he arrived in Hawaii in 1959. So, how old was he on August 4, 1961?

[Vendome]

You are creating a different argument.

The document is real.

It really is an “Abstract”.

It really is not a birth certificate.

Fo’ real, Fo’ shizzle.

[Vendome]

Everyone keeps welcoming you back...

What happened?

[shhrubbery!]

Where is all this amazing stuff? Trump didn't even so much as bother to follow up or release anything. This is because he had squat and it's a good bet Corsi has nothing new or significant either.

Possibly one bona fide piece of "amazing stuff" found by Trump's investigators was this:
There was NO Obama birth certificate the state's record vaults, nor in any of the hospitals where Obama could have been born.

Know why? Because the state of Hawaii, without any public notice, removed all of the documents to a separate location for "safekeeping." That's the claim, anyway.

So it would have been undeniably "amazing" to find the bc was missing. And it would not have been a lie on Trump's part. He couldn't have known of the state's secret ...uh ... secretion of the Obama docs.

This might be the reason even Neil Abercrombie couldn't find the bc - even though he believed it existed.

[cynwoody]

What the heck does that link have to do with NBC?

About as much as SR511.

[Brown Deer]

This might be the reason even Neil Abercrombie couldn't find the bc - even though he believed it existed.



In December 2010, Abercrombie said, "Maybe I'm the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, 'I was here when that baby was born.'" Just a few days later Neil explained that he didn't exactly see 0bama's parents with little Barry at the hospital, but "remembers seeing 0bama as a child with his parents at social events."

So how was that possible if Stanley Ann took little Barry with her to Seattle only a few weeks after he was born and did not return until Barack, Sr. had left for Harvard the following year?

The following month, on January 18 of this year, Abercrombie stated that a record of the birth "actually exists in the archives, written down." Two days later, his close friend Mike Evans announced on 34 different radio stations throughout the nation, Neil told him he looked everywhere, "and there is no Barack 0bama birth certificate in Hawaii--absolutely no proof at all that he was born in Hawaii." He also stated that Abercrombie said that his first recollection of 0bama was when he played in a T-ball league at the age of 5 or 6 (when 0bama was in Indonesia).

The following week Evans told FOX News that he misspoke and had not talked to Abercrombie since he became governor. He stated that he only mistakenly made that comment on the one station which posted his interview, yet he had actually stated the same information on many different interviews that day!


Oddly enough, none of Neil Abercrombie's friends at the University of Hawaii remember the 0bama-Dunham relationship. His brother Hal said he never saw them together. Pake Zane could not recall Stanley Ann from those days but had precise memories of 0bama, Sr.

It seems that Governor Neil Abercrombie like his dear friend Barry 0bama, is a habitual liar.

[Myrddin]

Unless you are planning to run for President of the United States, your lack of being an NBC doesn't matter a hill of beans. The only reason anyone gives a rip at this point is that it appeared to be the simplest way to head off having a Marxist, muslim, anti-American sitting in the White House. We tried fervently before he was elected. Our concerns about him have come true, but the one simple way to boot his ineligible butt out of the office have been thwarted. Much of the damage that has been done is irreversible. The ass clowns that let this go on are as much to blame as the perpetrator himself.

[Hotlanta Mike]

Via Jerome Corsi’s Facebook page:

At the last minute HANNITY CANCELLED — I guess joining Bill O’Reilly to dismiss the “Birthers” — we had keep the first radio for Hannity for 3 months. He cancelled today. STEVE MALZBERG gets the first interview later this afternoon. Call Hannity and let him know what you think.

[jersey117]

I’ve already cancelled O’Reilly and rarely watch Hannity anymore. I really don’t think it is Hannity’s fault. He is on WABC radio here in NY. I’m sure he got his marching orders from the suits.