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Posted on 05/14/2011 7:04:25 AM PDT by petitfour
The wife of a Tucson man killed in a Pima County SWAT raid May 5 pleaded for five minutes with 911 dispatchers to send an ambulance for her mortally wounded husband, audio records show.
Often through tears and sometimes in broken English, Vanessa Guerena, tells 911 operators that her husband had been shot by a "bunch of people" who opened the door of their southwest-side home and "just shoot him." Meanwhile, dispatchers worked to determine if she was calling from a house where the SWAT team was serving a search warrant, audio released Friday by Drexel Heights Fire Department reveals. It takes about an hour for waiting medics to know what happened, and the man is dead before fire crews are allowed into the home.
Jose Guerena, 26, a former Marine, was sleeping after the graveyard shift at Asarco Mission mine about 9:30 a.m. when his wife woke him saying she heard noises outside and a man was at their window. Guerena told his wife to hide in a closet with their 4-year-old son, his wife has said. He grabbed an AR-15 rifle and moments later was slumped in the kitchen, mortally wounded from a hail of gunfire.
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Most police departments are nothing more than taxpayer financed street gangs and shakedown operations.
Notice how you never hear about this type of thing happening against gang members like MS13 etc?
Wonder why? Cause those guys will shoot back against these taxpayer financed criminal cartels.
Similar thing happened to my Mother and Stepfather. Police at the wrong address shot buckshot through the door. They just barley missed my stepfather (too bad too because he is now serving time for kiddy porn).
I have delivered pizza before and I don’t think I have ever knocked on the wrong house. I just don’t understand it.
You know what? The coppers used to regarded by me as helpful. Now I am extremely scared of them and advise folks to never get out of the car and just roll your window down a slit and slide out your license and ins card. Call someone on your cell phone ASAP to get over there, your lawyer, your parent someone. They are bullies hiding behind a badge and many of them are on steroids which doesn’t add to their judgment.
Most cops are lazy beyond belief. All one has to do is call the local tax assessor and do a drive by the house to confirm it.
Second - didn’t these jerks ever cross check google eart, zillow, etc?
I hope every one of these murderers does life in general population.
This case brings up another serious issue about the direction law enforcement has taken in this country over the last couple of decades.
We now have local police departments that have departments operating as paramilitary organizations. These paramilitary organizations are into a lot of local law enforcement operations where they do not belong. And they get a lot of latitude in how they behave.
Essentially, our police are morphing into paramilitary organizations. Certainly not what our Constitution intended. And most certainly, something that ought to be a very loud wake up call to the general population. Which it is apparently not.
How long before most of us (with any sense) fear “law enforcement” more than we fear criminals?
These guys need to be dealt with severely. But please don’t paint all cops with such a broad brush. Get the bad ones out, and praise the good cops.
Anybody know the basis the court used to seal the official records associated with this raid?
This is completely outrageous! SWAT busting into a house and shooting someone without warning? Killing A VETERAN in his own home? Did they get the wrong house? Why was a warrant issued?
This wreaks of Pima County crap.
“These guys need to be dealt with severely. But please don’t paint all cops with such a broad brush. Get the bad ones out, and praise the good cops.”
Your not understanding that it’s not about cops. Their are good cops, bad cops, stupid cops, smart cops, heroic cops, cowardly cops, fat cops, skinny cops. It’s not about that.
We have an institutional problem. Government is too powerful. These Union Thugs with cheap haircuts, bad ass sunglasses, wide discretionary powers and a code book do big it cannot be stuffed in the back of a squad car are a symptom of large gubment. Now I could not for the life of me understand what would make anybody want to be a gubment enforcer, and live off great hunks of gubment cheese stolen from citizens, I don’t see individual cops as the problem. The problem is they are too well funded. They are protected from criminal and civil law suits for their actions. If these cops, their supervisor, the D.A. and the Judge who issued the warrant were held criminally responsible, charged with Murder One, they would be more careful. If they went to jail, then the families of these cops, D.A.’s, and judges had their houses, cars, silverware and bed sheets sold off at auction to pay restitution they would be more careful.
The special protections need to end. No buffer. Personal civil and criminal responsibility.
“Tucson police chief to participate in Obama-led immigration forum”
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_53553b24-6aab-11e0-87c9-001cc4c002e0.html
by Fernanda Echavarri, Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:31 am
Tucson Police Chief Roberto Villaseñor will meet with President Barack Obama at the White House today to discuss the nation’s immigration laws.
Villaseñor is among a bipartisan group meeting with Obama that includes California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, the mayors of New York and San Antonio and Philadelphia’s police commissioner.
Villaseñor was not available for comment Tuesday morning and his office said he would not be available for a phone interview after the meeting.
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Wonder where his priorities and brains are?
A writ of CYA.
71 shots fired in 7 seconds. ALL by SWAT. Two other homes then searched in case ‘stray bullets’ hit someone else.
But it took them an hour to secure the scene enough for paramedics?
Murder.
Grunthor is right:
“...if she had not been on the phone with dispatch (they didn’t know who it was) she and her child would both be dead.”
The Internal Troops were conducting a sweep of 5 houses in the neighbourhood.
This couple had moved into their house two months previously.
Looks like shoddy.
There are Freepers living in Pima Co and this thread has been going on for some time now..
From what I gathered, it’s as corrupt as Detroit.
All involved, including the judge, loss of ALL assets.
Three of them to be executed.
Three to be wounded and left to bleed for two hours.
Let me get this right...
Possession of a firearm in your own home and pointing it at armed men who just woke you up by busting down your door is a Capitol Crime punishable by death and is to be judged and executed on the spot.
Was any evidence that they “may” have gathered worth this?
What happened to “Innocent until proven guilty”?
What happened to a trail by a jury of your piers?
If they can gather evidence at all cost, even at the cost of human life, why do we need judges and juries?
Getting to the point of Sylvester Stallone as “Judge Dredd”.
No, they just swing into cover up mode.
Where is the warrant? Was it for an individual or for the house? Why has the wife not been given a copy of the warrant? Was the warrant for the husband? They claim it was a narcotics search warrant.
So who is asking the Pima County Attorney about the warrant? Is the warrant sealed? Why is it sealed IF it is sealed? Where is the Pima County Attorney on this? Her name is Barbara LaWall for those who are not from Pima County. Forget Dupnik. Was the warrant sealed prior to the killing?
Amen.
True there are lousy cops and some Police depts are getting all into the military aspect but in all my dealing with the police here, I have never had a problem with them.
The trouble is all the cash the DHS is giving them to buy toys like armored cars and auto weapons. Some police need them, but when you go to a small,upscale community and see a armored truck and a SWAT team I shake my head.
These fools need to do hard time for a long time for killing this man.
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