Research Help: Spiro Agnew a Natural Born Citizen?

[rhubarbb]

Sorry if this is in the wrong area, this is my first time posting. I'm a long-time lurker who loves FR and I use what I learn all the time against my friends, some of whom (Unfortunately) are liberal. It's the price of going to a big college. I'm really good about speaking the truth to them and showing how they're wrong, and most of my best arguments come from FR. But there's been one question that one of my friends keeps repeating and while I know he's wrong I can't prove it and it's bugging me.

I know the best researchers are here and I figured someone here has figured out how to set the Obama-bots straight on the issue. I've searched through all the other threads on eligibility and didn't find anything.

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My friend says that Spio Agnew (Nixon's VP) proves that you don't need two citizen parents to be a Natural Born Citizen.

Now, I know that the Vice President must meet the same elgibility requirements as the President, and therefore must also be a Natural Born Citizen (12th Amendment). My friend claims that Spiro Agnew's father was a Greek Citizen when he was born. I've tried to find any information to confirm and deny this, but can't find anything. I know he's wrong (he's a Dem... haha) but need help with the proof.

I can't see Nixon choosing someone, and the Republicans electing, a vice president that was obviously unqualified for office.

So my question:

Is this true? Have one of the researcher's looked into Agnew's citizenship? Did Nixon choose a VP that was not a Natural Born Citizen? And if so, did he hide it like Chester A. Arthur did? I figure that one of the reasons I can't find any information on it might be because he did the "hide your past" thing like Arthur.

Any help would be great and help to take a liberal down!!

[Red Steel]

“It is universally admitted both in the English courts and in those of our own country that all persons born within the colonies of North America whilst subject to the Crown of Great Britain were natural born British subjects,....

As usual you spew nonsense. Natural born British subjects does not equate to natural born citizens as that is natural law. Natural born subjects is a "Term of Art" as "natural" is in name only, and it has a specific application as being only a statute or man made British law.

Lets see Ms. WKA. The United States fought a war against Great Britain and it's empire to renounce any and all British citizenship. Natural law and the Law of Nations is part of the US Constitution. As usual, you are being disingenuous. As you can see with your own eyes below that the Law of Nations is written in Article 1 of the US Constitution.

Your posts are "Offenses against the Law of Nation" and Natural Law.

[bushpilot1]

The United States was formed based on the writings of Vattel. Stop lying on Free Republic.

[bushpilot1]

“I’ve searched through all the other threads on eligibility and didn’t find anything.”

Really...are you sure?

[Gondring]

Legal precedent, for those of us who can entertain more than a single thought, has been reversed many times, over time, by the Supreme Courts themselves.

Very true...there might well be some dispicable people who try to allow villains to steal the birthright of American children. But for now, even if a father kidnaps his non-custodial child and takes him to a country without extradition or criminal statute against it (Pakistan, Lebanon, etc.), the child's citizenship is intact if he or she is rescued.

[bushpilot1]

[Captain Kirk]

The Constitution doesn’t “state” anything of the sort. If the founders had wanted to specify that both parents be citizens, they would have done so in plain language.

[bushpilot1]

[bushpilot1]

"Foundations of the Constitution" Can u read..let me type it again...Foundations of the Constitution. Vattel.

[cynwoody]

NBC simply means citizen by birth. You can be a citizen by birth simply because you were born here (14th Amendment) or because your parent(s) passed their citizenship on to you.

McCain, Obama, and Chester Arthur qualify. Kissinger, Schwarzenegger, and Granholm do not. They were not citizens by birth but were granted US citizenship later.

There are those who would argue otherwise, but their wait for a suitable Supreme Court decision will be long. After all, Chief Justice Roberts, having full knowledge of Obama's parentage, nevertheless swore him in twice. Stare decisis et non quieta movere.

[Gondring]

James Buchanan’s father became a citizen by virtue of the Constitution. He arrived in 1783 and the Constitution was ratified in 1787. He became a citizen before James was born in 1791.

Sorry, but that was only if he became a citizen of Pennsylvania before ratification. He didn't.

Pardon the tense I used...it was clearer this way.

[Mr Rogers]

I cite court cases from the 1800s. You cite...your feelings.

“The United States was formed based on the writings of Vattel.”

Ah yes. I guess that is why we follow citizenship by parentage...except we do not.

But don’t let the facts confuse you. Read WorldNutDaily and get angry about the conspiracy involving the entire governments of the US and all 50 states...

[bushpilot1]

[cynwoody]

If a Soviet sleeper couple (we have dozens of documented examples) infiltrated the US for the purpose of spying and "defeating" the US, and they became "citizens" and they produced a child on US soil, would he be eligible to run for president?

They wouldn't need to become citizens. As long as the spies were not here under diplomatic cover, the kid would be an automatic American, eligible to run when he turns 35.

According to the Constitution, Billy Ayers is eligible to be president. The Constitution is a lousy way to keep bad guys out of the White House.

[Red Steel]

.I cite court cases from the 1800s. You cite...your feelings.

We've cited Supreme Court case and you cite you goofy feeeeelings. Post 181 is not "feelings."

[Mr Rogers]

Post 181 is utter drivel. You don’t even know what is meant by the Law of Nations in the Constitution.

[bushpilot1]

Here is a court case..i have many..

[Mr Rogers]

“After all, Chief Justice Roberts, having full knowledge of Obama’s parentage, nevertheless swore him in twice. Stare decisis et non quieta movere. “

Silly. Don’t you know about the great conspiracy? The US Supreme Court, every member of Congress, and all 50 states are in on it. If you read WND, you would know EVERYBODY is in on the conspiracy, except a happy few who maintain altars to Vattel in their living rooms...

[Red Steel]

You’re an utter idiot Ms WKA. You don’t even believe your own eyes. There is much proof against you that you are crazy.

[Mr Rogers]

You still don’t know what ‘Law of Nations’ refers to, do you?

[bushpilot1]

Obama is an offense against the law of nations..and the children of a non citizen born in the US.