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Bin Laden Death Will Not Boost Obama: Expert
CNBC ^ | May 03, 2011 | Patrick Allen

Posted on 05/03/2011 1:41:43 AM PDT by CutePuppy

The euphoric scenes that met the death of Osama Bin Laden will not boost President Barack Obama's re-election hopes, according to Alastair Newton, a political analyst at Nomura in London.

“The immediate reaction in the US notwithstanding, 'normal business' will soon be resumed in US politics. There will be no change on the fiscal/debt polarization and contrary to some commentators' reaction, definitely no election boost for Obama," said Newton in an interview with CNBC on Tuesday.

With little or no operational control over al-Qaeda in recent years, Newton believes Osama's death will have little impact on the terror group's ability to mount attacks.

“Bin Laden's role as head of al-Qaeda seems to have been largely symbolic for some years now, he was not responsible for operational planning and decision-making," he added.

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Symbolic and great for morale (and domestic politics), but affects little in the GWOT (except, possibly, for the "treasure trove" of collected data on the HDs).

Ayman al-Zawahiri has been operational and strategic leader of al-Qaeda since at least 2003, if not earlier.

1 posted on 05/03/2011 1:41:45 AM PDT by CutePuppy
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To: CutePuppy

“Symbolic and great for morale (and domestic politics), but affects little in the GWOT”

I agree.
The people are having their little party now, but in the
morning they will have a hangover and still a big headache.
Obambie still gets the blame.
By Nov. 2012 they will ask..Osama, who?


2 posted on 05/03/2011 1:48:49 AM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: CutePuppy

I think it was a significant victory and, realistically, I think Obama can expect a bit of a boost out of it. The question is, will it be enough to jump start something bigger. As we saw in the 2008 campaign, Obama is at his best when he has developed some momentum. If he can turn this into momentum, he’ll be harder to beat.


3 posted on 05/03/2011 1:51:48 AM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm still listening)
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To: CutePuppy

Well I’m not expert. I don’t even play an expert on tv. And I did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

But I agree with the premise completely. Here is my take:

Liberals do one thing. Only one thing. Always: That thing liberals do is called “projection”. Attributing to conservatives, the things they are.

Liberals if you will recall, rallied around the flag for about 15 minutes following 9-11, but almost immediately began trying to manipulate America into military defeat in order to weaken Bush.

They see everything as political, care not one bit for America, and in their PR euphoria during the last 24 hours believed in what substitutes for their hearts, this would be their magic issue. To defeat conservatives with.

Not a chance.

My experience today expressing happiness about things to liberals I know, was really strange. Like they were uncomfortable to be on the patriotic side, with me agreeing with them. Very odd.

Liberals I think, expected us to go after Obama on this. They really expected us to be unhappy.

Once they realize they’ve stepped into the patriotic, America first corner and we’re right there agreeing with them.

They’ll scram. No way, do they want to stay there being patriotic with conservatives agreeing with them about a strong America.

They don’t really believe in it, and will become uncomfortable with it very fast.

Just you watch.


4 posted on 05/03/2011 1:52:28 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Saul Alinsky, meet Donald Trump...")
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To: CutePuppy
Any bump ZERO gets will be gone because he will exploit it.
IMHO
5 posted on 05/03/2011 1:58:45 AM PDT by DeaconRed (O The carnival barker said: "We don't have time for This silliness" I agree Impeach 0 Now)
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To: CutePuppy

Keep in mind George Bush Sr. had a 92% Approval rating after Gulf War 1 and he was fired for a lot less than Obama has done.


6 posted on 05/03/2011 2:02:11 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Voter#537

He already screwed it up by immediately dumping the body after an Islamic funeral.


7 posted on 05/03/2011 2:07:59 AM PDT by ari-freedom (All we are saying....is give the military a chance)
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If this is true, it would have happened no matter who was president now. It took that long. Obummy the narcissist tries to take credit for this.


8 posted on 05/03/2011 2:16:15 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now (http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
If this is true, it would have happened no matter who was president now.

What matters is not who is President now. What matters is who was President then.

The revelation that intelligence gleaned from the CIA's so-called black sites helped kill bin Laden was seen as vindication for many intelligence officials who have been repeatedly investigated and criticized for their involvement in a program that involved the harshest interrogation methods in U.S. history. "We got beat up for it, but those efforts led to this great day," said Marty Martin, a retired CIA officer who for years led the hunt for bin Laden.

9 posted on 05/03/2011 2:21:54 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: ari-freedom
Concur 100%. There was no reason to discard the corpse instantly.
OBL, each scrap of paper, and every computer device at that house should be examined.
Adhering to all the Muslim burial protocol was just plain silly.


10 posted on 05/03/2011 2:23:33 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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"He already screwed it up by immediately dumping the body after an Islamic funeral."

His taking full credit, barely mentioning the seals, and no mention of "W" and the way they got the information.
It's ZERO he will screw it up even more - guaranteed. ! ! ! ! ! ! !

11 posted on 05/03/2011 2:28:39 AM PDT by DeaconRed (O The carnival barker said: "We don't have time for This silliness" I agree Impeach 0 Now)
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To: CutePuppy

Symbolic is a greatword for Bin Laden’s death. As I have said before the cemeteries are full of indespensible people.

Radical Islam has been around for hundreds of years and is not going to go away anytime soon.


12 posted on 05/03/2011 2:30:50 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: RC one

I’m not seeing it. The guy did one thing right in 2 1/2 years. That doesn’t wipe out all the “aw shxts” he’s got with the biggies being, massive national debt, obamacare, gas prices doubling + , high food prices and going higher and high unemployment.

BO is the all time worst president and he achieved that in record time.


13 posted on 05/03/2011 2:33:57 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: CutePuppy; All

I believe he MAY get a poll boost...short lived and broad but not deep.

Hussein did DICK in the execution of the mission. Basically, he got OUT OF THE WAY. So at least his handlers told him to do that—otherwise, he’d screw that up, too. The nature of a smug, self-absorbed totalitarian is to try and be involved in all big decisions. Basically, Axeldork and some of Hussein’s other sycophants were able to persuade him to have a big cup of STFU and let the military work.

Or, perhaps, the generals/admirals told him—in their own way, of course—to go have a clambake while the big boys did their duty.


14 posted on 05/03/2011 2:34:54 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Voter#537
Exactly. He's been repeating for over two years now that he “inherited” the economy, but can't manage to concede that he inherited any information that led to finding Osama.
15 posted on 05/03/2011 2:37:26 AM PDT by JoeRed
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If the poll numbers agree with what you like, you believe them.
If the poll numbers disagree with your likes, you disbelieve them.——Ronald Reagan, 1985

“You don’t have to believe in reality. Reality works whether you believe in it or not. Fantasies do not work the same way.”
-—origin uncertain. Recently attributed to Pope Pious, Mark Twain, Newt Gingrich, ....


16 posted on 05/03/2011 2:39:30 AM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Voter#537
You are right. Obama already has overplayed his hand, in the first press-conference on the subject, by emphasizing and repeating "I" over and over.

He couldn't help it, for he is a narcissist of the first order. That plays with the liberals because they are cultists by nature (and nurture), but for most normal people it looks, sounds and feels in bad taste, especially as details of how this operation came about - going back many years, and impossible without Bush administration insisting on efforts which were loudly protested as "illegal" and criticized by Obama and liberals - become better known.

As soon as liberals wake up and come down from their euphoria and descend into real life again, they will realize that the chants of "USA! USA!" didn't and won't translate into what they mentally heard in their heads as "Obama! Obama!" That will be some bad hangover.

Faced with dismal poll numbers, Obama is trying to do the only thing he can - replay the Clinton's 1995 OKC bombing script which helped revive Clinton's campaign, but the nature of the terrorism (OKC was considered "domestic" while al-Qaeda is a foreign/international), the economy, world's financial conditions and the mood are different, and he is different from Clinton - more arrogant, supercilious, narcissistic, self-absorbed and less capable of playing and selling triangulation game.

And Clintons were stopped early from damaging the economy with HillaryCare and some other onerous laws and regulations, while ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank FinReg, heavy-handed activism by EPA, DOJ, FCC and other agencies are still with us and are just beginning to do the damage.

17 posted on 05/03/2011 2:44:50 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: maddog55

I didn’t say it was game over for us, just that it will probably give him a boost and he may turn it into some kinetic energy. I’m not going to just write the guy off. He runs a mean campaign and will be formidable despite his shortcomings. If we put the wrong person up against him, we could easily lose. Don’t doubt it.


18 posted on 05/03/2011 2:52:15 AM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm still listening)
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To: RC one

The man over all is a coward. He had really no choice before him. Think about it.

He’s told that we know the whereabouts of Bin Laden. The guy has a dozen or so meetings about it. Each meeting there is risk of a leak.

Finally, he’s faced with two choices, (not three which would be to do nothing). Either kill Bin Laden with a drone or with an ambush.

He chooses the ambush, because just about everyone in the room recommends it.

This time the good guys came out on top. It could have gone bad, e.g. if the Pakistani military had attacked. In fact, were they at all part of this operation?


19 posted on 05/03/2011 3:19:08 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: AlexW
Symbolic

Interesting that he made this enormous announcement on communist May Day (May 1). Coincidence? Maybe.

20 posted on 05/03/2011 3:19:21 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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