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Despite DNA evidence, some doubt bin Laden really dead
Seattle Times ^ | May 2, 2011 | Matea Gold, Eryn Brown and David S. Cloud

Posted on 05/02/2011 8:57:48 PM PDT by UniqueViews

Within hours of the raid on Osama bin Laden's Pakistan compound, the CIA had used 21st technology to get "a virtually 100 percent DNA match" on the dead man. But something out of another century may come back to haunt the United States: the al-Qaida leader's burial at sea.

Conspiracy theorists on the left and right were quick to insist bin Laden was either still alive or had been dead for years, pouncing on the government's decision to slide the body of the world's most wanted man off a board into the Arabian Sea.

The burial at sea largely followed widely accepted interpretations of Islamic law taking care not to anger the mainstream Muslim community, said Ebrahim Moosa, a professor of Islamic studies at Duke University in North Carolina.

With only a small group of witnesses, a military officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a "native speaker," the official said.

The Islamic tradition of a quick burial was the subject of intense debate in Iraq in 2003 when U.S. forces embalmed the bodies of Saddam Hussein's two sons after they were killed in a firefight. Their bodies later were shown to media.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: binladen; binladendead; burial; cindysheehan; conspiracytheory; deather; deathers; islamicburial; islamiclaw; obama; osama; wot
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To: UniqueViews; a fool in paradise; Daffynition; JoeProBono; Slings and Arrows

I Am a Deather!


81 posted on 05/02/2011 10:25:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Nick Berg? Daniel Pearl? Both were beheaded. AFAIK, both bodis were then tossed away like trash, yet our NAVY honored this man with a religious funeral? The whole thing is so disgusting.


82 posted on 05/02/2011 10:30:43 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: UniqueViews

“Mr. President - Show us the DEATH CERTIFICATE!”

:)


83 posted on 05/02/2011 10:50:50 PM PDT by bitt ( ..Congress - either investigate Obama ...or yourselves, for complicity)
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To: UniqueViews

Oswald acted alone.
Paul McCartney is alive.
Men landed on the moon.
W won the 2000 election.
9/11 was not an inside job.
Bin Laden is dead.


84 posted on 05/02/2011 11:03:45 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Refudiate 0bama '12)
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To: UniqueViews
Despite DNA evidence, some doubt bin Laden really dead

This time it's different. No one in their right mind is going to claim OBL is unquestionably dead, if there were actually even a small chance he could pop up alive sometime down the road.

I am not willing to call the entire US military a pack of liars after they have staked their reputation on the success of this mission.

85 posted on 05/02/2011 11:04:27 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: mylife
Ditto

and maybe there's a new ‘safe house’ in Egypt. It's a big country and will be ruled by friends - of The WON.

And then Libya - and they will control half the Mediterranean, the pipe line to Europe, the Suez...and reestablish the Caliphate in it's old headquarters, Tripoli.

Wanna envision what it would take to to halt the spread of the Caliphate rule if the above happens - which is getting to look more likely than not.

When dealing with magicians - or liars - always WATCH THE OTHER HAND...

86 posted on 05/02/2011 11:07:18 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the otherhand)
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To: neodad
Great, now the “deathers”...

What did de Vattel have to say about the legality of murdering the head of a foreign NGO in cold blood with months of indecisive malice aforethought?

87 posted on 05/02/2011 11:13:08 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mylife
I trust the troops too but Soldiers get paid to shoot and shut up. Pakistan may be getting the bold heave Hoecause AQ’s new home in Egypt awaits.

those thoughts have been flitting through my head too.

Any bets on a nice new compound somewhere in Egypt for a certain guest of honor?

As to a photo of a body - they WILL release one soon's it's 'finished' - think "Hollywood."

As to DNA - they've got DNA of dozens of binnie's family. The could show us any one of them and say it's his - OR, if he isn't really sleeping wit da fishies - he could've let them take a few drops of the genuine stuff before being spirited away to is new hidey home.

See all the things we can conjure up when we think we may have been lied to - by a liar?

88 posted on 05/02/2011 11:23:09 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the otherhand)
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To: Salamander
he foments doubt and paranoia on purpose, in an manner resembling psy-ops.

That is a very effective tactic in warfare.

It is disturbing beyond description that he is conducting psychological warfare on his alleged countrymen.

He seems to be determined to constantly keep us all off-balance and in a perpetual state of chaos

could be.

Might also be the twisted workings of deeply narcissistic mind that, unfortunately, has been given the keys to the country.

89 posted on 05/02/2011 11:31:16 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the otherhand)
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To: maine-iac7

It’s cold comfort to imagine that the biggest lunatic is running the asylum.

I go on record as having stated that he had “crazy, “dead” eyes” years ago.

I could -feel- the darkness emanating from him.

Too bad the libs were asleep...or hypnotized.


90 posted on 05/03/2011 12:04:34 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: UniqueViews

Since nobody has an actual sample of OBL’s DNA. The only thing that the CIA could do to confirm their claims is to compare it against living members of OBL’s family for a herditary comparison.

This is why the CIA are only claiming an 99.9% accuracy rate. Which is merely a 1000 to 1 accuracy as opposed to the 99.9999999% accuracy rate typically associated with a conventional DNA test.

This is by way the same CIA that told us that Saddam Huessain had WMD’s without a doubt....


91 posted on 05/03/2011 12:29:58 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: notfornothing

Silence may be deafening, but how do you know he is not:
1. Still fleeing
2. Dead already
3. Put up in some comfortable retirement digs

I am not saying he is—and if it was not 2:30 a.m., I could come up with more, but I find it interesting that the administration is saying that another tape exists, etc.

Why would I suggest these unusual scenarios? Because there has been no credible proof released indicating he is dead-we have the word of a man not known for always telling the truth—hey he is a politician! This man is the commander and chief of our armed forces.

In this digital visual age, I am shocked the media outlets are not demanding footage of burial etc. As someone said, trust, but verify. With this bunch in DC, I verify then maybe trust.


92 posted on 05/03/2011 12:34:55 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: tsowellfan

Don’t you find those tweets amazingly convenient?!


93 posted on 05/03/2011 12:39:34 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: mewykwistmas

You sure are posting a lot of straw men here aren’t you? Surprising considering you are still pretty new around here....


94 posted on 05/03/2011 12:43:43 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: eyedigress

Why?


95 posted on 05/03/2011 12:45:27 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

My advice to you: learn what a straw-man is instead of looking at my sign up date http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=strawman


96 posted on 05/03/2011 1:17:03 AM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Could be that OBL is not going to take reports of his death sitting down.

This administration is so filled with liars and cheat that I’ll not believe a word from any of them.


97 posted on 05/03/2011 1:31:49 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: kennyboy509
Ok. Here's my theory:
Osama is the beast from the book of Revelation. It will be revealed later that Osama survived the mortal head wound and that the CIA faked his death to avert chaos. He will then escape CIA custody with the help of his muslim friends in the administration. He will be worshiped by the muslim world as the messiah.
Either that or he really is dead. Those are the only two possibilities. Unless...
98 posted on 05/03/2011 2:02:56 AM PDT by JoeRed
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To: P-Marlowe

Normally, it’s a matter of priority. In the case of bin Laden they already had his sister’s dna, so instead of 2 readings, they had to take only one to match the markers they already had on his sister. Those results could be sent electronically. Labs have confirmed that the test itself “can” take just hours if they have a good sample. Vials of pure blood would be a good sample.

The test on Obama’s blood wasn’t done on the compound, but the story is that the US had a presence in the vicinity. Having worked with these people before, I’d say it was at an airstrip/airport that could hold maybe heavy transport aircraft for the blackhawks, but it would be no problem to for any of them to fly the 200 miles to Kabul in just a coupla hours. The transport would be there for any questionable airframes damaged in the firefight.

The US military has a major medical presence near Kabul, so they’d have the sample to the hospital in just hours.

And ALL service members are DNA id’d anymore, so, yes, they’d have all the equipment at that hospital. It would enable them to id remains after terrible injuries, burns, etc. during combat operations.


99 posted on 05/03/2011 6:14:11 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: bushwon
#2 is moot. I'm about as certain as certain can be (and any sane person should be as well) that 1 and 3 can be ruled out because of a simple reductio ad absurdum. Let's assume that Bin Laden is alive. We now have to believe that the president went before the whole world on Sunday night and announced his death - here's the thing - knowing that if Bin Laden releases a videotape mentioning specifics about the attack, or a similar audio recording, or even a picture of himself holding a post-attack copy of the New York Times, it would make him the biggest buffoon in history and end any chance he had of getting re-elected next year, and would hand al Qaeda the biggest propaganda coup in the history of the world. At an absolute minimum, one thing's for sure-as-shit certain: if anyone believes Bin Laden is dead, Obama does.
100 posted on 05/03/2011 7:42:36 AM PDT by notfornothing
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