Posted on 05/01/2011 7:43:12 PM PDT by ph12321
Chief of Staff of Donald Rumsfield tweeted OBL has been killed. Perhaps this is Obama's new speech coming soon?
I don’t know about indonesia but I have recieved several calls here in Panama and people are happy Osama is gone.
Like you I hope these guys all get some recognition one day, all of them, the ones on the ground and the ones who helped with the planning and logistics. What a great team effort to be able to raid into a town that is home to the Pakistani 2nd Division and get out again without taking any casualtiers. Man out troops are good.
Bush wanted him dead or alive, he got his wish by coutesy of the US Navy Seals and the rest of the military team that supported them. God Bless our troops.
Yes, he is.
Now for the rest of the terrorists...
Thanks for the ping Vel and may God continue to bless us and our military.
ugh...wish it was that useless Star Jones. She,s a poser and a user.
I think it was last night. The SEAL that I know that is/was over there said a couple of days ago he was bored. That was probably the theme for them. I wonder if he was in on the raid.
I don’t believe it until I see his pic - plus he breaks the news during Trumps show? Where’s al-Zawahiri?
why give him sharia law burial at sea?
Cities in US are now on alert - why not just make him disappear? All the cheering on the news will not help us in the ME’s eyes.
Are you sure he’s been dead for a week - send me link please, I would love to throw that in a few faces.
US Navy SEALS, with no approval asked from the Pakis (because we knew they were hiding him...he was 1000 ft from a major Paki intell HQ).
Went in and did the business. Asked him to surrender when they had him dead to rights and when he didn't, they double tapped him. Hauled his carcass out and checked the DNA, took copious photos (as I understand it) and then buried him in the Ocean. No shrine...he's shark bate and fish poop now. No fanatics will go to his shrine to get themselves psyched. I hope we put out the word quietly that he was covered in pig excrement and oil when they dumped him overboard.
From the people who gathered the intel for so long, the teams that planned the hit, and yes...even to the chain of command all the way up the line who approved it...I have to give credit.
It was a gutsy call deep into Pakistan and potential danger for that team...but they got the job done and Bin Laden is no more...and done in a way that has sent the proper message to enemies of this nation. No matter how long it takes, no matter who your friends are, no matter where you hide...we will get you.
Though I have to give Obama credit for giving this order...and it was a gutsy order to give...I hope and pray to God in Heaven that it is not enough to help that man get re-elected. In the end, despite this order, he himself, IMHO, is an enemey of all that we hold dear in our constitution and the principles upon which it is based, and is going about, openly and admittedly "cahnging" those things towards socialism and out and out marxism IMHO.
Oh, my! This is lovely, indeed! My deepest, profoundest respect and gratitude to the SEALs involved. Nice work! Carry on.
I’m still trying to figure out how the baseball fans back East were able to get the news while the games were still in progress. It came across at approx. 8:00 p.m. here on the West coast, which would be 11:00 p.m. on the East coast.
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The game was still on.I wasn’t watching.
I suppose you have seen that they are claiming the body was dumped in the sea. What a bunch of in your face BS!
I would like to see the emphasis shifted to the, 20th amendment, “implied requirement to qualify the President Elect”(After the Electorial College votes get counted).
This election raises the question, “is there a process for qualifying the President Elect?”.
The 20th amendment shows in section 3 that the President Elect may fail to qualify (note: this would be after the electorial votes have been counted and certified).
I would hope that the highest priority for becoming Commander In Chief(CIC) would be to get a TOP SECRET Security Clearance.
Also, high on the list of security issues is being eligible for office.
Next on the list might be “potential for being blackmailed” you know, having something to hide.
In Obama’s case, if he has a Security Clearance then it is inexcusable that he did not take steps to put the military personnel at ease.
Furthermore allowing Col. Lakin to be mistreated and jailed, in and of itself calls for Obama's removal, due to a state of “NO CONFIDENCE TO LEAD”.
Every senator and Representative has sworn to uphold and defend the constitution and thereby has standing and an obligation to challenge eligibility.
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The following was posted by Uncle Sham. As can be seen he is knowledgeable on this subject. Uncle if you would post a link to your post I would appreciate it.
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To: mickie "This should be sent to State Sen. Mae Beavers."
In the interest of helping her out,here is the Constitutional case for establishing the “eligibility” of a President elect.
First off, what is a “President elect” in the full legal sense of the description? Since we are talking about the Constitution, we must assume that the term is referred to ONLY in its legal sense. The identity of a "President elect" is not established at election time, nor is it established after the electoral college cast their votes. It is only established once Congress has ratified the electoral votes as legal and binding. Winning the election in November is just step one of a four-step process.
Step two is the electoral college.
Step three is Congressional review and ratification of those results which finally establishes just who the President elect is.
Step four is section three of the Twentieth amendment. Miss any one of these four steps and there is no LEGAL Constitutional President. Like perhaps, now.
Twentieth Amendment, Section three: ”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.” .
Note the time indicated in the initial passage. It clearly refers to that period AFTER Congress has ratified the Electoral College results because the beginning of a term of office can only occur once there is someone to "begin" that term. Not only this, but Congress ratifies the electoral college on January 15th. The beginning of a Presidential term is January 20th which is after the Electoral College ratification process is completed.
In addition to the Constitution, here is U.S. law... U. S. Code, CITE: 3USC19 TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT, CHAPTER 1- PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act ”(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President.“
Once again, from the U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials: ” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
The portion in bold stating “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a “qualification” of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to “qualify”. To infer that the lack of a “specified” qualification process means that stated eligibility “qualifications” for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious.
The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done. There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one. ” No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
Section three of the Twentieth amendment comes in to play as the LAST step in a process to ensure that a President is in fact legal. To satisfy meeting the requirement of the Twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a President elect must present evidence that he meets its requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president.
In fact, without establishing whether or not the President elect is "qualified", Congress would not know whether or not to step in and name a temporary replacement as the Amendment requires. Certainly, this means that the proof of "qualifications" must be presented to Congress. If someone does not have a birth certificate as the governor of Hawaii has stated, how was this proof of eligibility established? Where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act? If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has “failed to qualify” and cannot be serving as a legal president of the United States of America.
Remember, the Constitution says in Article two, section one that "NO PERSON" who does not meet the eligibility requirements may serve as President. There is no wiggle room in this language.
Based upon the above, I conclude that:
1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet “qualified” as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection.
2. Anyone serving in Congress (see “Congress” in bold in section three of the Twentieth Amendment), or anyone who is currently serving under the oath of office in Article six has "standing" and can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper “qualifying” documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the Electoral College votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The very fact that they are duty-bound by oath to "support" the Constitution REQUIRES them to respond to any and all attacks against it. No judge can deny any of them the standing to do so. It would ask them to break the law in their effort to enforce the law. 3. We need to start pressing legal charges against all of our local representatives and senators covered by the oath of office in Article six for disobeying their oaths to support the Constitution as it pertains to the language of section three of the Twentieth amendment. Put PRESSURE on them to represent the document that gives them their authority in the first place.
28 posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:59:06 PM by Uncle Sham
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MY POST -CITE- 3 USC Sec. 19 01/07/2011 -EXPCITE- TITLE 3 - THE PRESIDENT CHAPTER 1 - PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES -HEAD- Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act
-STATUTE- (a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President.
(2) The same rule shall apply in the case of the death, resignation, removal from office, or inability of an individual acting as President under this subsection. (b) If, at the time when under subsection (a) of this section a Speaker is to begin the discharge of the powers and duties of the office of President, there is no Speaker, or the Speaker fails to qualify as Acting President, then the President pro tempore of the Senate shall, upon his resignation as President pro tempore and as
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MY COMMENT And so on>>>>>>>>>>>>>until the whole list is depleted, with Napoloteno(sic) being on the bottom of the list(GOD Forbid!!) As you can see each person in succession has to be qualified for President in order to serve.
If no qualification process exists. Congress better get on the ball.
Cheers:>) Easy Does It
No problem
Blame Congress...
Congress is Responsible For the Eligibility Fiasco
My suggested remedy at the state level is here.
Usurper Detection Legislation Should Be Passed Within Each State
If the questionable "long form" does not receive full legal challenge and verification, here's where the facts take us...
The Known Facts Currently PROVE He is not a Legal President
If the information on the questionable long form is accepted without further legal inspection and verification, Obama himself declared his ineligibility by co-sponsering SR511
Easy Does It.
Well, that didn't take long. I just had to read four more of your posts until you said something ridiculously ignorant.
At least you're consistent.
Hello! and congratulations!!! It looks like we chose a historic day for nuptuals last year. Nice to meet you.
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