Posted on 04/28/2011 5:55:29 AM PDT by ZGuy
This absolute truth really hurts - so much so that lashing out against the Church is the only response you can muster:
“Declarations that sinful desires are a gift from God: following the well-worn empty path of Luther and King Henry VIII who taught the world to make it up as you go along and pretend that it’s Christian.”
“Churches” (actually “sects” such as yours) that pretend to democracy inevitably redefine sin as good.
It would be nice to see metmom or Hoss condemn the homosexuality within their own communities as harshly as they condemn it in others, but perhaps hoping for equitable standards to be applied to Catholics and non-Catholics is expecting a bit much from their group
But what is really funny is that none of these groups say anything about what THEY believe or do, just hides behind shouts and insults.
This is a standard leftist tactic to hurl insults at Christians and The Church and hide what they believe Tell us, hoss, metmom, what does your group believe in?
And exactly what IS my "sect", since you seem to know so much? Doing a little mind reading? I could just as easily say the same of your cult.
Hoss
Your sect is not Catholic or Orthodox (or a pretender of those wings of the Church).
Your sect, therefore, is de facto democratic.
Your sect chooses its leaders by popularity.
Who eventually tailor their doctrine so as to remain popular.
Otherwise they won’t have a congregation.
Your sect’s doctrine is subject to the veto of the membership.
And if you are a sect of one where you determine doctrines, then of course that is a most sinister and sad situation wherein your doctrine is always subject to your veto.
> “I left the mission field in Egypt because the Muslims
> didn’t have a proper Biblical view”.
If you feel called to be a missionary to the apostate church organizations, then do it. I do not believe that I have been blessed with that calling. Suffice it to say, the Lord has blessed me with another calling that may be even more challenging.
Meanwhile, the closest I’ve come to what resonates with my understanding of “church” can be found in this online book.
http://books.jesuslifetogether.com/The-Day-of-Small-Beginnings
Your sect DOES vote on doctrine, which is why your sect loves birth control, despite the Church’s constant position against it.
Even the sects condemned birth control as against the bible until the silly Anglicans voted to change accept birth control as holy at Lambeth (c. 1920).
All the other sects followed suit - because apparently anti-biblical sex is just too much fun and the voters wanted to have more fun.
So.. what you're saying is you don't know my denomination. You shouldn't be ashamed to admit it.
Your sect, therefore, is de facto democratic.
My "sect" is de facto nothing of the sort; you cannot make that pronouncement without knowing my denomination. FAIL.
Let's take this next one all at once:
Your sect chooses its leaders by popularity. Who eventually tailor their doctrine so as to remain popular. Otherwise they won’t have a congregation. Your sect’s doctrine is subject to the veto of the membership.
Hmmm. Your cult chooses its leader by vote -- popularity -- you know, all that white smoke and stuff? Voted in by the College of Cardinals? Hmmm. Seems very "democratic" to me. Projecting again?
Doctrine in my denomination is based on Scripture. Not popularity. Check out 2 Tim. 3:16 for a clue. And doctrine is not made up as you go along as is the Roman Catholic Cult's "tradition."
Congregations of my denomination cannot (and do not) "veto" Scripture... we are lead by it.... so I don't know where that pipe dream came from, but be disabused of it.
As for your last remark, that is so, well, unintelligible that I can only hope to guess what you mean since you seem to say that my "sect"'s congregation can veto doctrine, but that I as an individual can also -- that's contradictory. Sorry but you're really ballistic off the rails here -- no lock-on, and not tracking.
So... feel free to try again. I suspect you'll do no better.
Hoss
Cronos,
I believe all the 8 points you enumerated.
Sounds like basic Christian doctrine to me.
But I am not a member of a “sect” or “movement” or “denomination”.
Just a Bible reader.
When I was a young Christian, I encountered a verse I didn’t understand. I brought it to the preacher, and he asked, “Are you going to live that verse today?”
I asked, “How can I live it if I don’t even understand it?” I was hoping he would give me an explanation.
Instead he said, “Then focus on living the verses that you do understand, and if you manage to do that, perhaps the Lord will open your eyes to understand some of the deeper mysteries.”
Best advice I ever got.
Your sect’s perversions are too numerous to detail.
Source for this??? And do make sure you specify my "sect" when you answer.
Do you mean VOTE or VETO? Maybe a typo, or just the inability to stay on topic?
Hoss
Oh, please. Really? Go ahead and list them; you seem to enjoy it -- I'd think you'd have no trouble being specific as to the denomination I belong to since you adamantly seem to claim the knowledge...
C'mon... entertain us. At least more than you're doing now.
Hoss
Many people fall into the trap of self-sects, as you describe your own practices. Your choice is a gross and self-centered perversion.
While you CAN get some things right this way, it is NOT the way prescribed by God Himself.
Any sect that rejects the Church (Catholic and Orthodox)
pretends to democracy and independence
and this is a gross perversion.
In addition, your sect includes the most ardent sinners as members and leaders, who commit the most heinous sins - including perversions too numerous to mention.
That means that your sect and your sect’s leaders are perverted in several ways.
And another thing,
your failure to note your own sect
leads one to believe
that you are embarrassed to claim your Christian associations.
Anyone who is unwilling to state their own religious communion, as your actions indicate you have done on this thread, is certainly worht paying attnetion to only as an example of a farce.
By all means,
if you are a member
of a sect that
rejects birth control
as anti-biblical,
then just name your sect and I will gladly retract my remarks.
Not at all. The Scriptures are plain enough when it comes to practice.
Read 1st John 2:27
Following is a little note from the Pilgrim Fathers, whom you would probably disdain, though you benefit greatly from their insight and heritage.
It is great arrogance for any man or Church to think that he or they have so sounded the word of God to the bottom as to be able to set down precisely a Church's practices without error in substance or circumstance, and in such a way that no one thereafter may digress or differ from them with impunity.
Jesus says it was NOT GIVEN to some to understand Gamer... they can not help it
Forgot to footnote “Of Plymouth Plantation” as the source of that quote.
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