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Smoking Gun: Will Release Of Obama's Purported Birth Certificate Give Rise To New "Certer" Movement?
The Smoking Gun ^ | April 27, 2011

Posted on 04/27/2011 7:39:09 AM PDT by Zakeet

This morning’s White House release of President Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate will, of course, do little to derail the “birther” movement, which will now analyze the document with the kind of verve previously directed toward those Texas Air National Guard memos faxed to CBS from that Kinko’s in Abilene.

So here’s a few nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers:

[Note: Summary of issues immediately raised by TSG]

[Note: list of issues in article ... impossible to list here and still comply with excerpting requirements]

(Excerpt) Read more at thesmokinggun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbfake; eligibility; obama
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To: Jeff Winston

That is my problem. What kind of a jerk would tie up the courts, allow men to go to jail and allow this “distraction” to go on for 3 years, when it was all this easy to release the document? It is not something that was ONLY demanded of him...it wasn’t because he is black...McCain also had these questions, and he quickly put them to rest by releasing his documents.


101 posted on 04/27/2011 11:28:39 AM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: ImphClinton
I just read that the Hospital Kapiolani (where Obama supposed was born) was named at that time in 1961: KAUIKEOLANI CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL

Kapiolani Maternity Hospital (where Obama was born) merged with the Kauikeolani Children's Hospital to form the Kapiolani Medical Center. The information on the long-form is consistent with the historical names of the hospitals.

102 posted on 04/27/2011 12:08:27 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Coyotehockey

Good try obamanoid, but much more adept scum than you has tried to bait me into revelations which should be reserved for discovery phase in a court battle. Toddle along now, little obamanoid.


103 posted on 04/27/2011 12:14:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

How many court cases have there been so far? What do you think will be your lucky number?

By the way, I must have missed your comments about that Indonesian law that said that Obama was too old to be adopted in Indonesia. Here is the link if you would like to read the entire thing:

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,,,LEGISLATION,IDN,4562d8cf2,3ae6b4ec8,0.html


104 posted on 04/27/2011 12:21:09 PM PDT by Coyotehockey
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To: ImphClinton

Just one correction: ...qualified to run for President, I think his term saw far has shown him to be rather unqualified as president.

His Commie ties worry me more than anything, because they are old-line commies, and all his actions indicate that he has been well-mentored.


105 posted on 04/27/2011 12:41:02 PM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: Zakeet; P-Marlowe

The issue proves that his father was not an American citizen.

This proves, of course, that Obama is not a natural born citizen. He is a citizen; just not a natural born citizen.

His allegiance could lie elsewhere do to mixed loyalties.


106 posted on 04/27/2011 12:48:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: TigerClaws; All

There are several points of apparent authenticity in this document that make it look very much like it was generated on a manual typewriter of the 1960s era. I know them because I went to college and law school from 1961-1967 and typed all of my academic papers on either a Smith Corona manual typewriter or, later, on a Smith Corona electric.

Those points are:

1) The denisty of the chaacters varies from character to character, a characteristic of any fabric ribbon typewriter.

2) The horizontal spacing is uniform, once again characteristic of a manual typewriter of the period.

3) A carbon ribbon typewrirter or ink jet or laser computer priner would produce characters of uniform density. The density of the characters varies in a way that’s just about exclusively characteristic of a fabric ribbon typewriter.

4) A common defect of mechanical typewriters was “flying capitals” that were produced when the operator struck the character key just before the machine had shifted into upper case. Flying capitals appear in lines 6b and 16.

My conclusion from this is the document was produced on a manual typewriter of the 1960s era, meaning it’s going to be a lot harder to disprove its autheticity than it was to disprove the authenticity of the Bush TANG documents.


107 posted on 04/27/2011 1:43:42 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: rightwingextremist1776

My guess is the issue is moot now because so many people are now realizing after their 2008 remorse,that this guy and Party lie about many things but that the real important things are his failed policies which are killing America in every way conceivable:domestically and internationally. The more the Pubs put those stats and easy explanations out,the more curb sitters will just Say NO Bama and the Dem Congressional candidates and many state leg. ones in 2012. And that is what has to happen to save the republic. This issue is just a side show to that.


108 posted on 04/27/2011 2:12:40 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Zakeet

BTTT


109 posted on 04/27/2011 3:24:41 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
I'll bet Mr. Onaka has no financial worries the rest of his life!

HF

110 posted on 04/27/2011 3:41:43 PM PDT by holden
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To: xzins; Zakeet
The one thing that may have been awkward for Obama is the fact that his mother was 18 at the time of his birth, which means she was either 17 or just barely legal at the time of conception and his mother may have been the "victim" of Statutory rape.

The other thing is that because Obama's father was married to another woman in Kenya at the time of the Marriage, the marriage was void.

One final note, I have a feeling that a DNA match to Obama Sr. might turn up negative. My own conspiracy theory is that the real father is Frank Marshall Davis and that Dunham married Obama Sr. for the purpose of establishing legitimacy for Obama and that Obama Sr. may have been complicit in the whole thing. Apparently whatever marriage they had was over before Obama was born, since the LFBC clearly establishes different residences for Obama Sr. and Dunham on the date of the birth.

One final observation. If Abortion were legal in 1960, Obama would not be president today.

111 posted on 04/27/2011 3:52:56 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: tuckrdout

Why does the media accept this stuff as gospel? Shouldn’t they at least verify that this certificate is not forged?


112 posted on 04/27/2011 5:13:02 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: GOPsterinMA

It is truly disturbing to ponder, FRiend. I had hoped that this was resolved — we could easily beat Obama up on the issues, but I also really get sickened by cowards who DEMAND we ignore the pink elephant in the room. Such demands only spread discord. Why the heck did he wait for so long? What kind of good person does that when the military has to lock men up over it?


113 posted on 04/30/2011 5:56:15 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
“...but I also really get sickened by cowards...”

Some folks do not want to accept or understand or even care that we are talking about the survival of our nation, right here and now.

Not only are they cowards, they are traitors.

I am a proponent of scorched earth warfare. In this case, you attack the enemy (Rats) with everything you possibly can. Soetoro proved he is ineligible to be POTUS, due to his father's? citizenship (or lack thereof). Why isn't that being discussed? The SOB should have been removed and arrested the minute that COLB hit the airwaves.

114 posted on 04/30/2011 9:06:31 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Democrats always box in discussion, RINOs oblige them, and conservatives get confused. Remember when all the Clinton scandals were boxed into “Monica-gate”? SOP.


115 posted on 04/30/2011 11:20:10 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

“Democrats always box in discussion, RINOs oblige them, and conservatives get confused.”

It long past time for the “right” to get their heads out of their asses and keep focus.

The Rat “box in discussion” trick is an old one for sure. Too bad it still works on many dim bulbs.


116 posted on 04/30/2011 11:25:34 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Here’s a related op-ed [Vattel], “meat and potatoes” enough for me to digest:

New Birth Certificate - Same Old Shell Game
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2712087/posts

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To contextually determine the historic definition of a word or phrase, one must view its definition within historically contemporary primary and secondary sources. The Constitution is actually a secondary source, as it was fashioned after a primary source: Emmerich de Vattel’s “Law of Nations.” In “Law of Nations,” Vattel defined a natural born citizen as one who is born on our soil to citizen parents. That is the primary source definition, and that definition has never been altered—not through amendment, nor by the Supreme Court. Moreover, the framers chose to include that specific requirement as part of a president’s eligibility. It really does not matter why they included it, only that they DID include it; and, having included it, it is part of the highest law of our land.

The fact that so many internet “Einsteins” don’t understand the meaning, or significance, of the term does not alter its definition—as much as they would like it to.

Barack Obama’s father was never a US citizen, so it doesn’t matter if Junior had been born in the Oval Office, swaddled in the American flag, and nursed by Betsy Ross. He has been constitutionally ineligible since the day he was born, and he has already lost that argument before it is ever publicly started.

S


117 posted on 04/30/2011 12:08:45 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

You’re 1,000% right.


118 posted on 04/30/2011 4:07:39 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Eh, unquote.


119 posted on 05/01/2011 5:00:54 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I’m still not giving ground on any certifigate research until it’s acutally discredited though.


120 posted on 05/01/2011 5:02:30 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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