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President to talk about his birth certificate
Fox news | 4/27/11 | nully

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:13:29 AM PDT by null and void

Just announced. Obama to speak in 45 minutes. (6:45 AM PST)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertficate; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; colbfake; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamalegacy; officialbcrelease; photoshop; revisionisthistory; transparency
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To: PwrPencil
OK... I did another experiment by scanning a print out of the birth certificate. As you can see from the image below, the scanning software DID seperate elements as can be seen by the Illustrator handles. I was able to move these elements including the black type. Moving the type did leave a white area beneath it.


481 posted on 04/27/2011 11:51:48 AM PDT by reegs
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To: Sprite518

That is consistent with Adobe Acrobat separating text from a background image for compression. The document appears to be authentic. The original record was copied on microfiche which was then used to print the new certificate which was then signed by the registrar.


482 posted on 04/27/2011 11:53:23 AM PDT by JoeRed
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To: Fractal Trader

The form you linked was the COLB


483 posted on 04/27/2011 11:53:28 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: RummyChick

Lady, I tip my hat to ya! I was going nuts trying to find onaka’s stamp before I cited this and I couldn’t find it to save my life. THANK YOU!!!


484 posted on 04/27/2011 11:56:04 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: MestaMachine

LOL! I love it!


485 posted on 04/27/2011 11:57:31 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: MestaMachine

All they had to do was cut and paste. I can’t quite figure out how that typo got there.

It looks to me like it is darker than the rest of the stamp.

Did someone do this on purpose????

Btw, there is some irony that Factcheck.org - who posted that stamp in 2007 - is the one that causes Obama to be hoisted on his own Petard.


486 posted on 04/27/2011 12:00:04 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“The law is not settled. If you listen to the Supreme Court oral arguments actually discussing the Natural Born requirement for Presidency you will see that it is not settled law”

There has never been a case before the USSC that dealt with NBC. NBC has no relevance in US law except as an eligibility requirement for President. All Presidents before Obama, met this requirement or the grandfather exemption built in Article II.

No cases arguing NBC have ever been made before the USSC....so how could you say....

“If you listen to the Supreme Court oral arguments actually discussing the Natural Born requirement for Presidency.....”

Even so USSC cases discussing “citizenship” have often referenced NBC. In each of these cases the accepted USSC definition has always been the same “born in country to citizen parents.”

How can you say that NBC is “unsettled?”
The term has a well defined and acknowledged definition. It however has never been adjudicated in regards to the Presidency so in that regard you are correct.....having never been heard it could be called “unsettled.” Obama is out to settle that!


487 posted on 04/27/2011 12:01:57 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: LucyT
“Good comment though on Smoking Gun: No one has noticed the “M” in P.M. is a small font of a capital M. That would have been impossible on a manual typewriter. The keys could have created only a capital ‘M’ or small ‘m’, but not a smaller version of a capital M. Just sayin’.”

same thing on Nordyke BC

Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: it is spelled “Ukulele.”

Two different registrars?


488 posted on 04/27/2011 12:03:03 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: netmilsmom

That is what is embedded in the .pdf. If you like I can send you the entire document unzipped. It can be viewed in most text editors, but the raw data cannot be viewed that way.


489 posted on 04/27/2011 12:04:43 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: PwrPencil

True, separating into layers does not in and of itself create smaller files. Acrobat separates documents into layers to allow different types of compression optimized for different types of data. That is what made Adobe Acrobat such a great program in the first place.


490 posted on 04/27/2011 12:05:37 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: reegs; RummyChick

Maybe this was the procedure???

1. Original document in a bound book.
2. Photocopied out of that book. (curl on left side)
3. Scanned (#2 & #3 could be the same)
4. Copied onto patterned paper
5. Scanned again (causing the white lines around the type due to unsharp masking)
6. Opened in Illustrator
7. Converted to PDF

?????

Comments please


491 posted on 04/27/2011 12:08:06 PM PDT by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: Forty-Niner

You have your take . I have mine. I have actually listened to the oral arguments of a case where they actually discuss NBC.You don’t even know that discussion exists.

It is interesting to note that the same case was discussed again recently before SCOTUS. Not one word was mentioned about NBC during oral arguments.

The court differs on what they think is required for Presidency as can be heard in that oral argument...and , yes, that matter is not settled.

Therefore, you cannot say what might or might not be an NBC other than you know the strictist jus soli AND jus sanguinis qualifies.


492 posted on 04/27/2011 12:09:38 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
It looks to me like it is darker than the rest of the stamp.

If you magnify it on the computer, you will also see that the word "of" preceding "txe" is also darker. For whatever reason, both of those words have been altered. It's not just the "TXE".

493 posted on 04/27/2011 12:10:42 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: RummyChick

It is possible when they put this together, someone didn't have their specs on. When some words are very enlarged, they are not clear, and then when you resize them, they are. Like this image. Some ofthe normal letters do not appear corrctly. I think they just made a huge mistake and didn't catch it before they rushed to release it.

They probably thought it was just an artifact.

494 posted on 04/27/2011 12:11:07 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: RummyChick

Yes, I think so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)

Quartz specifically refers to a pair of Mac OS X technologies, each part of the Core Graphics framework: Quartz 2D and Quartz Compositor. It includes both a 2D renderer in Core Graphics and the composition engine that sends instructions to the graphics card. Because of this vertical nature, Quartz is often interchanged synonymously with Core Graphics.[1]

In a more general sense, the term Quartz or Quartz technologies can refer to almost every part of the Mac OS X graphics model from the rendering layer down to the compositor. In this use, the term covers Core Image and Core Video as well.[2]

...

Use of PDF

It is widely stated that Quartz “uses PDF” internally, often by people making comparisons with the Display PostScript technology used in NeXTSTEP (of which Mac OS X is a descendant) and OPENSTEP. Quartz’s internal imaging model correlates well with the PDF object graph, making it easy to output PDF to multiple devices.[6]


495 posted on 04/27/2011 12:13:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: hripka

Explain the likenesses in the written signatures. explain TXE typo. Scan it a hundred times and it still comes out TXE...not THE.


496 posted on 04/27/2011 12:14:07 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: hripka

That sounds like a very plausible explanation. Also, I’m not sold on the “TXE” clue. It can easily be read as “THE” with the ink and stamp disfiguring the letter H.


497 posted on 04/27/2011 12:15:44 PM PDT by reegs
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To: RummyChick

trump’s latest quote


As for the actual document, Trump added, “We have to look at it, we have to see ... is it real? Is it proper? What’s on it? But I hope it checks out beautifully.””

he better be asking about why THE is misspelled.

Btw, there seems to be some difference on whether they used Oahu or Hawaii. They differ on the Nordyke twins under Country/state.


498 posted on 04/27/2011 12:15:44 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: netmilsmom

Not sure, not a Mac expert. It seems possible since Quartz uses .pdf internally, but I suspect the date came from the final creation of the .pdf.


499 posted on 04/27/2011 12:16:38 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ImphClinton; palmer; MestaMachine; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ...
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. . . . Quoting nully: "Don't step in the SP's."

Begin reading at # 412 for important information and updates.

"No one in Hawaii would misspell the hospitals name.

"Furthermore they would use the original name as it is only supposed to be a copy of original information. Thus to believe in this bogus copy you would have to believe in time travel as well. Or at least the ability to see the name changing many years in the future.

"What a pathetic attempt at fraud.

"Same certificate number as site set up debunking the original fake showing how to make a new fake. Probably because this is from a standard demonstration form.

"Hospital name the current name of the Hospital not it’s name in 1961.

"Photoshop so poorly done that it left fingerprints of steps used to forge it."

412 posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:48:56 AM by ImphClinton

Thanks for the ping, MestaMachine.

500 posted on 04/27/2011 12:19:42 PM PDT by LucyT ("Radical islam is real islam. "Moderate" islam is its trojan horse." - Travis McGee)
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