Posted on 04/27/2011 1:13:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Where was President Barack Obama born? In Kenya, as his grandmother is alleged to have said, or in Hawaii, as most everybody else says?
Is Obama eligible to be president? The Constitution requires that a person holding that office be a "natural born" citizen. If our president is not natural born, then he has perpetrated one of the greatest frauds in American history.
It's a real issue, politically speaking. Even more people today believe that Obama was born in Kenya than they did in 2008, when he was running for president. A New York Times/CBS poll found that 45 percent of adult Republicans believe that Obama was not born on American soil. That's up from 32 percent a year ago.
Even 10 percent of Democrats believe Obama was born in another country, with 9 percent unsure.
Conspiracy theorists have pointed to irregularities in Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" issued by the State of Hawaii. Questions arise whether that document was contemporaneous with Obama's birth or whether it was made later -- or even forged.
The questions just won't go away, even though they probably should -- not because Obama absolutely, certainly and incontrovertibly was born in Hawaii but because it doesn't really matter in terms of his eligibility for the office of president.
Lately the pot has been stirred by real estate mogul Donald Trump, who has not yet admitted publicly that he himself is running for president even though he shows many of the earmarks. Trump is currently seen in third place, behind Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.
Trump points out -- accurately -- that Obama has never produced an original long-form birth certificate from any hospital in Hawaii. All that's on record is that "Certification," which is less authoritative and which is being attacked as a forgery from an official template.
Information continued to emerge. In a sworn deposition earlier this year, Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, told of his official attempts to find an original birth record. He was unsuccessful. No contemporaneous long-form record is on file at any Honolulu hospital for baby Obama.
Adams claims that the government of Hawaii -- arguably the most Democrat of all Democrat states -- was covering up. In his affidavit Adams swears:
"During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth."
"I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate," Adams told a reporter. "And so I don't understand. This whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes."
As to the "Certification of Live Birth" issued by the State of Hawaii, it doesn't prove a thing, according to Adams.
"Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands," Adams said. "If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That's normally how you would have gotten one in the 1960s."
So, is Barack Obama eligible to be president of the United States?
We hate to break this news to the conspiracy theorists. They have brought up a significant political problem for Obama but not a constitutional one. Yes, Obama is eligible.
Barack Obama's mother was an American citizen. That makes Barack Obama a "natural born" American citizen, regardless what country he might have been born in.
Certainly, a confirmation that Obama was born on Kenyan soil would be a political bombshell, but only because he's been swearing that he wasn't. Americans don't like their presidents to lie (unless it's Bill Clinton, who received a pass even after committing perjury in the Monica Lewinsky affair).
In fact, none of this business about birth certificates changes Obama's constitutional eligibility for the office of president. So let's move on. Put the question of compliance with the Constitution behind us.
Meanwhile, we're with Trump: We still want to see Obama's original long-form birth certificate. It should be easy to get. We wouldn't be surprised to find that somebody already got it.
So true. Doesn’t matter if the mother is an American citizen, the father is not.
Wow, thanks! Bookmarking...
That’s pretty much the way I remember it explained in my high school Civics class when we went through all the articles of the Constitution.
At that time, the teacher took pains to explain why the Founding Fathers had included that provision — explaining that there was a genuine concern that a charismatic naturalized British-born but naturalized citizen could somehow get elected, and return the United States to British rule.
Where is the evidence it was issued by the State of Hawaii?
There is plenty of evidence that the COLBs are forgeries.
And....Obama himself has never spoken about it. The best we get from his spokesman is that it ( no specification of which one) was posted by the “campaign”.
Well! Gee!......What about the babies born in Vietnam whose fathers’ were American soldiers. Given this reasoning **any** of these Vietnam citizens ( communists by the way) could live here 14 years and be president.
If the editor of the Provo Daily Herald states the obvious truth, he makes Orin Hatch look even more foolish! And...The editor would stop being invited to the parties thrown by the governor and other Repugnants who protect Obama. No Repugnant would ever give him an interview again.
Please remember that Huntsman is one of Obama’s ambassadors. Please remember that every one of the Repugnants in the Utah legislature and the attorney general FAILED to defend the Constitution.
I was under the impression concerning this official document that no one has actually SEEN the original COLB issued by the state of Hawaii? I thought no one was allowed to view it per Hawaii state law?
On the eligibility issue the collapse of the establishment on every level has been complete.
“Where was President Barack Obama born? In Kenya, as his grandmother is alleged to have said”
That is not quite what she said...Listen for yourself.
http://s16v.com/americasright/8167169.wma
Born in U.S. in Hawaii.
Natural-born citizens of the United States are those who are citizens of the United States from birth without having to perform any act to acquire or perfect their American citizenship. These are those whose parents are citizens of the United States at the time of their birth.
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Ive often wondeered whyh Soros and Co didnt get one of the millions of NBC in the US to play their boy
but they probably wanted someone they could control completely
someone who could go to jail...
Yes, and many here still don't get it even though NATURAL BORN CITIZEN has been explained to them over and over again since before the 2008 election.
I think it's Agenda driven Deliberate ignorance.
How many millions of Americans are wishing that Obama would show the Long Form Certificate of Live Birth?
We need a poll showing how what percentage of the population want him to show it.
Millions would answer yes, even Chris Matthews wants to see it.
Without the actual, real birth certificate, how do we know who his birth mother is?
I would be curious to see all of Hussein’s hidden records, for school, his college acceptance, his college thesis, his Senate logs....where are these?
How can the media continue to just trust whatever this guy says, especially when he so easily lies?
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Donald Trump
born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.
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Marco Rubio
born May 28, 1971 in Miami, FL (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Mario Rubio born in Cuba
Oria Garcia born in Cuba
Unless proof of their naturalization prior to Mary 28, 1971 is produced Marco Rubio must be considered as NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
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Piyush Amrit “Bobby” Jindal
born June 10, 1971 in Baton Rouge, LA (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Amar Jindal born in India
Raj Jindal born in India
Unless proof of their naturalization prior to June 10, 1971 is produced Bobby Jindal must be considered as NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
I suspect this will never be solved. Saddens me to say, even voices on our side have no interest in pursuing this saying "we can't win on the issue" or "the issue has already been settled".
What kind of examples does the undocumented Obama past send? If you're powerful enough, the Constitution doesn't apply to you. Politicians won't actually represent their constituents interests if it's an unfavorable issue to the Media. The Truth doesn't matter.
I still think this should be a big issue in the campaign of 2012. At the least, based upon what we already know, it proves that Obama is anything but transparent.
I still think this should be a big issue in the campaign of 2012. At the least, based upon what we already know, it proves that Obama is anything but transparent.
Obama’s Birthplace Mystery: The Real Issue
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/obamas_birthplace_mystery_the.html
Hehe now we have all the time in the world to ask this question: How can a man born under the British Nationality Act be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States?
He Can’t!
I have been waiting for this day for at least two years!!
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