Obama’s Trump Card The damage the Donald can do

National Review online ^ | April 26, 2011 | Thomas Sowell

[jmaroneps37]

The boomlet for Donald Trump as a Republican nominee for president of the United States ought to be a wake-up call for Republican candidates and Republican party leaders alike.

Why has Trump surged ahead of other Republican candidates and potential candidates in the polls? It is not likely that his resurrection of the issue of Barack Obama’s birth certificate has aroused all this support.

The birth-certificate issue does more political damage to Obama’s critics than to the president himself, because it enables the media to paint those critics as kooks. Nor are Donald Trump’s political positions such as to create a stampede to his cause.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Radio-talk-show host Mark Levin has rebroadcast Trump’s varied and mutually contradictory statements on political issues and personalities over the years. It was a devastating revelation of Trump’s “versatility of convictions,” to use a phrase coined long ago by Thorstein Veblen.

So then what is Donald Trump’s appeal? And why should it concern Republican leaders in general?

Trump has what so many other Republicans are so painfully lacking: the ability and the willingness to articulate arguments clearly, forcefully, and in plain English. Too many Republicans talk like the actor of whom a critic once said, “he played the king like he was afraid that someone else was going to play the ace.”

What electrified so many Republicans about Sarah Palin in the 2008 election campaign was that her speeches offered such a contrast to the usual mealy-mouthed talk common among other Republican candidates, including Sen. John McCain. Whether you agreed or disagreed with her position on the issues, you didn’t have to wave your hand in front of her eyes to see if she was awake.

Donald Trump is dangerous in at least two senses. If, by some tragic miracle, he should become the Republicans’ candidate for president in 2012, that would be the closest thing to an iron-clad guarantee of a second term in the White House for Barack Obama.

That would be a huge setback for the Republicans — and, far more important — a historic catastrophe for this country.

What seems more likely is that Donald Trump as a candidate for the Republican nomination would use his superior articulation skills — not to mention brash irresponsibility — to trash all the other Republican candidates for that nomination, leaving them damaged goods in the eyes of the public, and therefore less able to gather the votes needed to prevent the reelection of Obama.

Why Republicans seem not to understand the crucial importance of putting the same time and attention into articulating their positions as the Democrats do is one of the enduring mysteries of American politics.

It was obvious that the Democrats coordinated their talking points and catch-phrases — “social justice,” “tax cuts for the rich,” etc. — even before the overheard and recorded statements of Sen. Chuck Schumer about Democrats’ plans to repeatedly use the word “extreme” to characterize Republicans.

But how many Republican catch phrases can you remember? Republican rhetoric tends to range from low key to no key.

Nor is there much evidence that Republicans have asked themselves how the left wing of the Democratic party gained such ascendancy in recent years, in a country where millions more people identify themselves as conservative than as liberals.

In short, there is little or no evidence that most Republicans see any need to fundamentally change their approach to the public. But if they think that they can rely on Obama’s declining popularity to win the 2012 election, they may be in for a rude shock. Worse yet, the whole future of this country and of Western civilization will be in jeopardy — in a world where the likes of Iran and North Korea become nuclear powers while we engage in empty talk at the U.N.

Barack Obama’s declining support in public-opinion polls makes some conservatives feel that his reelection hopes are doomed. But Donald Trump can be Barack Obama’s secret weapon in his fight to remain in the White House. The Donald can be his Trump card.

[curiosity]

I can give you proof that parents are allowed to clasify their race however they want on their birth certificate.

I can't give you proof that someone other than Barack Obama Sr., in 1961, chose to clasify himself as African.

Why do you think that's important?

[Digger]

The GOP will not nominate a Conservative. We've not had a true-blue Conservative candidate for President since Ronald Reagan. So, what the hell, may as well go outside the beltway and at least find a candidate who has a pair, It's Sarah or Donald IMO.

Correct & I believe Trump is more electable in the general. I think many here do not realize how many won't vote for Palin. The Donald is the safer pick.

[curiosity]

Of course you know you are wasting your time here.

I know. I do it because, for some strange reason, I find it fun.

[Sprite518]

Whatever Schmuck! What drugs are you on?

You want proof?? All anyone has to do is just go back a few of your post to see how you contradict yourself or as I call it double talk. That may work where you live and work but don’t pass off your double talk to me and then claim you are not doing it.

I know a lot people that try that lame brain debate tactic. You start saying something and at the very same time say you are not saying that. Even though you keep doing it... LOL!

[curiosity]

The facts are is that Obama is not eligible to be president.

Please tell me which facts support the claim that he isn't eligible. I have not seen a single one.

The common denominator with the birth record, the school records, employment records and medical records is his place of birth......That’s why he has sealed all records that could lead to WHERE he was born.

We already know, from statements by Hawaii officials, that the birth record says he was born in Hawaii.

I'm not sure I see what exactly the other records have to do with his birthplace. Would you be so kind as to explain it to me?

I find it funny how it does not even bother you that he has had multiple names,

Why should it bother me that someone has used a nickname in the past? Lots of people use nicknames. So what?

a Connecticut Social Security Number, etc....

Why should that bother me? Why does it bother you?

[CynicalBear]

>>Why do you think that's important?<<

Because the dayum thing is a fake. I only picked on facet that proves it a fake but you’re disappointing me here slick. That’s the problem with you “maybe could” be folks. You slam birthers but can’t provide any proof on your own behalf. You have a nasty way of trying to make fun of people who rely on proof but then slink away to “maybe land” and Alinsky tactics to try to diminish those who want adherence to rule of law. NOW, either prove you case or get of the stump, chump.

[BuckeyeTexan]

What if I could show you that Kenyans listed their race as "African" on other documentation? What if I could show you another COLB that listed the father's race as a continent instead of an actual race? Would that put the "African is not a race" issue to rest for you?

"Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father’s race and mother’s race are supplied by the parents, and that ‘we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be.’ "

http://obamatrueandfalse.com/2009/07/30/false-obamas-fathers-race-would-have-been-reported-as-negro-in-1961/

At the above-referenced site, there is a 1973 Hawaiian COLB where the father’s race is listed as “American” and the mother’s as “Hawaiian.”

There is also a link to the 1962 instructions for the Kenyan census. Kenyans were instructed to identify their race as “Write European, Arab, Somali, or African, etc. Asians must write Indian or Pakistan.”

Instructions for the 1962 Population Census of Kenya

[BuckeyeTexan]

African, get it? In my small world Africa is a country,

Well, it must be a world of your own making because Africa is not a country. It's a continent.

[BuckeyeTexan]

African, get it? In my small world Africa is a country,

Well, it must be a world of your own making because Africa is not a country. It's a continent.

[The Cajun]

Other than apologizing for mis-reacting to your post I am not sure what else you want me to say.

Heck, I just want to know how you came to those conclusions, what you saw that led you to those conclusions. There had to be some reasoning involved.
How did you come up with the names Dr. Sowell and Trump in my post?

It had to be really important and obvious since you pinged JimRob also.

[Sprite518]

“Please tell me which facts support the claim that he isn’t eligible. I have not seen a single one.”

Answer: Obama will not show his long form birth certificate to the public. He continues to hide it.

“We already know, from statements by Hawaii officials, that the birth record says he was born in Hawaii.”

Answer: Then why can’t they produce it if it’s no big deal? I know they can’t legally show it, but Obama can. Which he will not and continues to hide it.

Sorry but I don’t put as much faith as you do in the “Officials” story. Trust but verify which they can’t.

We have been told multiple different stories on WHERE Obama was born. For instance, why would Obama’s grandmother say she was present when he was born in Kenya? Only later to change her line after being handled by Obama Goons, “oh yeah... I mean he was born in Hawaii...” Yeah yeah that’s the ticket!

Moreover, what about the family getting mixed up which hospital he was born at? Who do you know gets that mixed up?

“I’m not sure I see what exactly the other records have to do with his birthplace. Would you be so kind as to explain it to me?”

Wow you really can’t put two and two togehter. Yes they all link to his birth.. Which Obama continues to HIDE.

“Why should it bother me that someone has used a nickname in the past? Lots of people use nicknames. So what?”

Of course that would not bother you. After all if you found out someone had multiple names and hid records from you. You would think that is just perfectly normal. SURE he can be President of the United States even though he is hiding his past. I’m sure the FBI would let someone in their ranks that did that to them. Yeah sure.... That is just the type of leader we want and you are perfectly okay with that.

I’m sorry but you have to follow the law. That is ALL I’m asking which I know you don’t care about.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Well it sure got quiet on this thread. I guess they took their toys and went home.

[curiosity]

Answer: Obama will not show his long form birth certificate to the public. He continues to hide it.

How does that prove he's ineligible?

Sorry but I don’t put as much faith as you do in the “Officials” story. Trust but verify which they can’t.

If you don't trust Hawaii's public health department, then you have no reason to trust any Hawaii birth certificate, long form or short form.

The only reason a state-certified birth certificate has any evidenciary value at all is because a state's official records are presumed to be accurate.

We have been told multiple different stories on WHERE Obama was born. For instance, why would Obama’s grandmother say she was present when he was born in Kenya?

She didn't.

Only later to change her line after being handled by Obama Goons, “oh yeah... I mean he was born in Hawaii...”

She said the Hawaii line seconds after the supposed "I was present" line. I'm not sure when Obama's supposed "goons" got to her. Who are these goons, and how did they "get" to her so fast?

Moreover, what about the family getting mixed up which hospital he was born at?

No one in his family ever stated he was born anywhere other than Kapiolani.

Wow you really can’t put two and two togehter. Yes they all link to his birth.

How exactly do employment records and school records link to his birth?

I’m sorry but you have to follow the law. That is ALL I’m asking which I know you don’t care about.

What law isn't be followed?

[curiosity]

Yup. Nice job bringing the facts to bear.

[The Cajun]

Well it sure got quiet on this thread. I guess they took their toys and went home.

Well I'm sure it's due to your powerful intellect and not because the got bored with worn out stupidity.

[realetybytes]

“You know whether his scholarships were paid as a foreign student or an American citizen?You know who paid for his education?

You say: “No, but I don’t see how it’s relevant to his eligibility. Please explain”.
Okay, if he was in school as a foreign student, he is not a natural born citizen, therefore ineligible.

His long form birth certificate, if he has one, is not relevant to whether he is a “natural born citizen”?

You say: “No, because his natural born status has already been established by other means.”
As his own book points out that his father was of dual nationality, and his mother was not old enough to pass her citizenship to him, he cannot be a natural born citizen.
Without his Long Form Birth certificate, which every American has, how has his “natural born status” been established? What other means?
Surely not the “certificate of live birth” he posted, which was available for years to non-citizens, like the Chinese Nationalist, Sun Yat Sen. (or was Sun Yat Sen, born in China, a “natural born citizen” because of a document Hawaii gave him, years after his birth?

[Chunga]

The answer is very simple: he doesn't want to end the debate. He wants to keep it going because it distracts his opposition from the real issues.

You're stupid, curiosity.

It doesn't distract anyone from anything.

Every birther on earth is aware of gas prices rising, war in Libya, unrest all over the Middle East and North Africa, inflation, housing market devaluation and the administrations' socialist responses to every crisis from levying higher taxes on oil companies to printing enough money to make foreign goods unattractive or impossible to buy.

Your contention that birthers can't focus on more than one issue at a time is projection. It's the mentality of a junior college dropout. No wonder you spend most all your time on a conservative website defending the most liberal president in American history. LOL

[Chunga]

I can give you proof that parents are allowed to clasify their race however they want on their birth certificate.
I can't give you proof that someone other than Barack Obama Sr., in 1961, chose to clasify himself as African.

It's obvious that you need to learn to spell the word "classify." Once is a typo...twice in the same post is evidence of stupidity, laziness or English-as-a-second-language status.

Please advise. LOL

[arasina]

Thomas Sowell a jackass? Have you lost every ounce of common sense with which you were born?

The rest of us in FReeperland don’t want to see FR birthers tying some of our best conservative voices to the track of the Donald Trump Express. Support The Donald if you wish, but don’t start trashing our best conservatives.

Well said. I agree even though I am what is commonly called a "birther". I'm just not a "radical" birther.

[Sprite518]

LOL!

“How does that prove he’s ineligible?”

Answer: Obama has failed to prove he was born in the U.S.A.... Sorry but COLB is a not about real as the Easter Bunny. To this date Obama has not released to the public his long term birth certificate. I know you know I’m right. LOL!

“If you don’t trust Hawaii’s public health department, then you have no reason to trust any Hawaii birth certificate, long form or short form.”

Answer: Wrong... Trust but Verify. Love how the state officials you trust keep changing their story. Hmmmmmmm?????? Why is that so hard for you to understand? Don’t worry I already know the answer. It’s because Hawaii does not have it. If they really had it, then it would have been released by now.

Most objective and fair people understand this. ONLY Obama worshipers and chicken $hit politicians that are scared to face reality that we have a Constitutional crisis. This is why your buddy Obama spends millions to HIDE THE TRUTH...

“She didn’t.”

Yes she did, and THAT is one of the MANY reasons why people want to see the long form birth certificate that Obama REFUSES to show.

“She said the Hawaii line seconds after the supposed “I was present” line. I’m not sure when Obama’s supposed “goons” got to her. Who are these goons, and how did they “get” to her so fast?”

Answer: Wrong she ONLY changed her line after the Obama Goons told her, “say Hawaii....say Hawaii.... Oh yeah Hawaii” LOL!

Oh and thank you for just admitting she changer her line. LOL! This is TOO EASY....

OBVIOUSLY you have not even heard the call if you thought the Grandmother was by herself..

It was just like when Obama said, “My Muslim Faith” only to be corrected by George Stephanopoulos saying, “You mean your Chrisitian faith” Obama then said, “yeah I mean my Chrisitian faith.”

LMAO! Priceless....

Now please tell me WHO do you know not ONLY gets their birth place mixed up but also their faith? Only Obama...

Definition of a “Goon”: A hired hoodlum or thug. A stupid, foolish, or awkward person.

“No one in his family ever stated he was born anywhere other than Kapiolani.”

Why because you said so? Sorry but that is fact. Deal with it. There was mass confusion as to which hospital.. LMAO!

“How exactly do employment records and school records link to his birth?”

Answer: You forgot birth records and medical records too... The one common thing they all have is his place of birth.

“What law isn’t be followed?”

Answer: The U.S. Constitution.

PLEASE don’t tell me you are THAT gullible to believe all the B.S. coming from Obama and his Goons. This is a no brainer... No one I have ever met gets this mixed up unless they are lying. The Changing of their story should be a BIG CLUE to you that their full of it.

Chances are we probably have an Imposter in the White House. My guess is that he is some sort of trouble with the law under his real name Barry Soetoro. Unfortunately we have such gutless politicians that are too chicken $hit to face the facts. It’s a big reason why our country is going to hell in a hand basket.

You can play all your little games you want, but that does not take away from the facts. If Obama was legit, then he would have released his forms by now.