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Here we go again?
1 posted on 04/17/2011 7:06:17 PM PDT by Qbert
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Why am I not surprised?


2 posted on 04/17/2011 7:07:09 PM PDT by Sprite518
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More “Profiles in Courage”.......


3 posted on 04/17/2011 7:08:19 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Member Emeritus of Vitriolics Anonymous.)
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Catastrophic Consequences? Catastrophic consequences my ....

Yeah, so are we going to get out of bombing third world countries?

Are we going to get people out of serious unemployment, where they can actually contribute to the funds?

What a waste!


4 posted on 04/17/2011 7:08:38 PM PDT by Morpheus2009 (I pity the fool - Mr. T)
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Well, of course they will. Was it ever really in doubt? Seriously?


5 posted on 04/17/2011 7:11:22 PM PDT by RonInNaples
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If raising the Debt limit a little is necessary to ward off collaspe, why do we not double the ceiling to 28 Trillion dollars.

Would that not be fun Awesome, Super, much better?


8 posted on 04/17/2011 7:14:48 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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More doom and gloom from the people that created this mess.

IT’S all Obamaa’s fault. And he gets us into another war to boot.


9 posted on 04/17/2011 7:15:49 PM PDT by chainsaw
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They better not!!!


11 posted on 04/17/2011 7:20:35 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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If I ever appear to believe so much as a single word coming out of a democrats mouth, please, put a bullet in my head.


12 posted on 04/17/2011 7:28:13 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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*Boner* was probably busy all weekend writing his *post-cave* speech on why it was the only thing he could do.


13 posted on 04/17/2011 7:28:48 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Bachmann, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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Can’t wait for this one to start serving his prison sentence.


15 posted on 04/17/2011 7:33:01 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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They say the same thing for everything - TARP, Stimulus, Obamacare, etc.

It has worked well for them so we can expect it.


16 posted on 04/17/2011 7:34:01 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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Ramp up a “recall” petition for every spineless rump-swabbing SOB that votes to raise it!

The GOP “leadership” are an incompetent gaggle of eunuchs, clueless of the American mood! Damn fools are playing with fire... They are stoking the simmering coals of a revolt.

These Gutless Old Poltroons should be covered with hot pitch and feathers, strapped to an old ass—with a water jug hung off a stick in front of its nose... and sent packing into the into desert.


18 posted on 04/17/2011 7:39:24 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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Turbo Tax timmy?

oh yeah...I believe him...totally...


19 posted on 04/17/2011 7:40:20 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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I wonder how many folks commenting on this thread actually read the article vs how many just read and reacted to the headline.

They seem to be two different things...

20 posted on 04/17/2011 7:43:00 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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Geithner said the Republican leadership assured Obama in a meeting at the White House on Wednesday that they understand the gravity of the debt ceiling vote and that they will vote to raise it.

Was Boehner crying when he said this or just cowering??

21 posted on 04/17/2011 7:43:33 PM PDT by Prokopton
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Just cancle the national debt, Germany did it and survived!


25 posted on 04/17/2011 8:02:59 PM PDT by dalereed
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What exactly is the point of an artificial debt ceiling anyway. It does nothing tho control spending...congress has already approved the debt. Defaulting will do nothing but cause chaos. This thing is too dangerous to be in the hands of idiot congressmen.


26 posted on 04/17/2011 8:04:21 PM PDT by Tim n Texas
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I think that this lad Geithner should be compelled to wear his Cub Scout uniform and his Macro Economics Merit Badge to all TV interviews.


28 posted on 04/17/2011 8:40:38 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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Republicans are bound and determined to LOSE in 2012. They want to be a minority party, because they’ve shown that they don’t want power.


30 posted on 04/17/2011 8:47:12 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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Fellow Freepers - I have just been reading (yet again) Isaac Asimov's Foundation trilogy. As you may recall, it is set in a future Galactic Empire, which is falling. This predicament is understood only by Hari Seldon, who through his science of "psychohistory" can predict the future political and economic evolution of humanity.

This is not a new idea - Asimov had been anticipated, some 25 years earlier, by the "morphology of history" of Oswald Spengler, whose Der Untergang des Abendlandes I have also been re-reading.

Anyway, the early novels are structured around the plot device of a "Seldon Crisis". A crisis is a problem that must be solved, and usually there are several solutions with advantages and disadvantages. A Seldon Crisis is when there are multiple critical problems, but almost every solution to one problem makes other problems worse.

That's where we are, I think. We have economic problems that could be solved by government spending, but a debt trap that makes such spending insane (though not, alas, impossible). We have a need to rebuild our industry, but an education system that cannot turn out people able to do industrial age work, and a tax system that penalises production and rewards speculation. We have multiple enemies overseas, and a military industrial complex that makes out armed forces both ineffective and unaffordable.

I won't go on. In Asimov's contrived plots, there is exactly one solution to a Seldon Crisis, and eventually some convenient clear-sighted person implements it. In Spengler's terms, we are faced with a crisis where our choice is "to do the necessary, or to do nothing".

History does not have a plot, but I do see one way - only one way - out of this Crisis. The debt ceiling must not be raised. I will go further: The debt ceiling must never, ever again be raised. Once that is set in stone, the necessary reforms become inevitable and inescapable. Once the reforms are seen to work, the return path to sound money and limited government is open.

Thanks for listening.

36 posted on 04/17/2011 11:40:48 PM PDT by John Locke
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