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Inflation Actually Near 10% Using Older Measure
CNBC ^ | 04/12/2011 | CNBC

Posted on 04/12/2011 2:56:10 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

After former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker was appointed in 1979, the consumer price index surged into the double digits, causing the now revered Fed Chief to double the benchmark interest rate in order to break the back of inflation. Using the methodology in place at that time puts the CPI back near those levels.

Getty Images Inflation, using the reporting methodologies in place before 1980, hit an annual rate of 9.6 percent in February, according to the Shadow Government Statistics newsletter.

Since 1980, the Bureau of Labor Statistics has changed the way it calculates the CPI in order to account for the substitution of products, improvements in quality (i.e. iPad 2 costing the same as original iPad) and other things. Backing out more methods implemented in 1990 by the BLS still puts inflation at a 5.5 percent rate and getting worse, according to the calculations by the newsletter’s web site, Shadowstats.com.

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1 posted on 04/12/2011 2:56:11 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Its a bit like unemployment is actually near 16% using the older methods?


2 posted on 04/12/2011 2:56:50 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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3 posted on 04/12/2011 2:59:21 PM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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4 posted on 04/12/2011 3:01:07 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Using the damage to the pocketbook method, after buying gas, groceries, paying for insurance, tires, airline tickets and so on, inflation is way over 10 percent. The real misery index is about as high as it has ever been.


5 posted on 04/12/2011 3:03:08 PM PDT by pallis
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What? You are telling me that the Federales are moving the goal posts in the middle of the game? Preposterous. Especially from the transparency Presidency. You will embrace the good data that the Gov't gives you and you will like it.


6 posted on 04/12/2011 3:03:21 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Ping! Over here....


7 posted on 04/12/2011 3:06:09 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

America is finished. It will never come back.


8 posted on 04/12/2011 3:06:33 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

You can substitute chicken for steak. Literally, that is what the Feds presume now when looking at inflation.

Plus, “hedonics effects” presume you love the quality of the air so much, that the crappy ethanol you put into your pump for more money actually REDUCES the cost of living.


9 posted on 04/12/2011 3:08:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: Logical me

OBTW - Newt Gingrich helped agree to these new measures as a way to save the Federal Government money by stiffing Grandma out of her Social Security Cost Of Living Adustments (COLAs).


10 posted on 04/12/2011 3:11:47 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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When the price of housing goes down, the Fed assumes a reduction in the CPI. That’s because “Owners Equivalent Rent” is based on recent selling prices, NOT WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SPENT on your house.

So, your net worth is in the toilet, you’ve lost your shorts on your housing investment, don’t have the money to spend on anything else, and as a result Voila! The Fed tells you prices have declined.

Neat trick, but totally not of this world. Your mortgage payment didn’t change, but the Fed presumes it went down.


11 posted on 04/12/2011 3:14:37 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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Just the cost of fuel the average family has seen 10% of their family income spent on higher fuel costs in the past year.


12 posted on 04/12/2011 3:23:32 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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13 posted on 04/12/2011 4:19:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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Did you ever get in touch with your roommate?


14 posted on 04/12/2011 4:22:16 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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He didn’t answer my email...... He’s a bit of a recluse; so you’re never sure what you’re going to get.


15 posted on 04/12/2011 4:31:00 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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Absolutely untrue. Why do people need to make stuff up? You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, so why comment? Do some research with actual documentation and technical papers instead of just reading blogs.


16 posted on 04/12/2011 5:46:45 PM PDT by pinqy (()
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; algernonpj; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; Uncle Miltie
Since 1980, the Bureau of Labor Statistics has changed the way it calculates the CPI in order to account for the substitution of products, improvements in quality (i.e. iPad 2 costing the same as original iPad) and other things.

The Gateway I'm using cost the same as the Atari I bought 30 years ago, so do we figure prices by bucks per box or bucks per bits?

This may or may not be the complaint we're getting from "The Shadow", but even if it is there's more to it then quality (BLS faq here).  We also substitute by fashion (Nehru jackets aren't considered anymore), by availability (buying strawberries when blueberries are out of season), by location (California oranges when Florida frosts) and so forth.

Anyone can make up a 'secret shadow' number and say it's true.  If it means higher taxes then they get on CNBC.

17 posted on 04/13/2011 4:44:38 AM PDT by expat_panama
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I am not surprised. Ask my wife, the grocery shopper. Hell, ask me - higher prices and smaller containers for everything. We are in the midst of “stagflation” (which I think they called it when Gerald Ford was in office).
18 posted on 04/13/2011 4:57:18 AM PDT by Puddleglum (dance with the horse that brung ya)
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Need to bring the peanut farmer’s MISERY INDEX BACK.


19 posted on 04/13/2011 7:08:28 AM PDT by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: expat_panama
Anyone can make up a 'secret shadow' number and say it's true.

The key is to take those made up numbers and use them to sell newsletters. That's a true skill test.

20 posted on 04/13/2011 7:16:23 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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