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Update: Breaking from Hawaii: No More Long-Form Birth Certificates!
The Post & Email ^ | 04/12/2011 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 04/12/2011 12:59:48 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: Georgia Girl 2

I got married in Fl with a California drivers’ license and nothing else.


101 posted on 04/12/2011 2:06:23 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Apparently the HI passport office did not yet get the memo. They told a poster on FR that it would not be a problem with a COLB. This is going to get very interesting.


102 posted on 04/12/2011 2:08:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Smokeyblue
The witness who accompanied the gentleman has a daughter who obtained a copy of her long-form birth certificate last month. The document was provided to Miki Booth, who supplied it to The Post & Email here.

Excellent. This is the beginning of the end. Think of the legal ramifications of this.....

103 posted on 04/12/2011 2:09:51 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: kabumpo
I got married in Fl with a California drivers’ license and nothing else.

Are you the President of the United States? Perhaps he should be be held to a slightly higher standard.....

104 posted on 04/12/2011 2:13:38 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Danae

You are totally right. The law cannot be changed on the whim of a state employee. I dont’ care what state you are from.


105 posted on 04/12/2011 2:15:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Is there no law in Hawaii?

At this point, Hawaii should pick up all the loses
of America for their fraud against the American people.


106 posted on 04/12/2011 2:15:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Those who would repeat the past must control the teaching of history. - Bene Gesserit Coda)
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To: ScreamingFist

No, just a point of information.


107 posted on 04/12/2011 2:20:32 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: STARWISE; LucyT

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SUNSHINE WEEK / A GUIDE TO GETTING PUBLIC INFORMATION
Honolulu Advertiser, The (HI) - Sunday, March 16, 2008
Author: Advertiser Final
THE COURTS

STATE DISTRICT COURT

What’s in it: Traffic cases, misdemeanor criminal cases, Small Claims Court cases, temporary restraining orders.

Who can get it: General public. Certain information is available only to persons involved; other records are sealed by court order.

Where to get it: Main District Courts in each county. Rural District Courts have limited public information available.

What you need: Requesters must have specific identifying information such as the case file number or date of court appearance. Misdemeanor criminal cases, including traffic offenses, are often difficult to locate.

What it costs: $5 retrieval fee for each file requested. Copying fees: $1 for the first page, 50 cents per page thereafter. Some files can be retrieved right away while others take as long as a week.

Contact numbers: For traffic violations - O’ahu, 538-5500; Maui, (808) 244-2800; Big Island Hilo District, (808) 961-7430/7470; Kaua’i, (808) 482-2355. For small claims - O’ahu, 538-5151; Maui, (808) 244-2838; Big Island, (808) 961-7430; Kaua’i, (808) 482-2303. For criminal cases - O’ahu, 538-5100; Maui, (808) 244-2967; Big Island, (808) 961-7470; Kaua’i, (808) 482-2300.

Available online? Partially. Some records can be obtained via the Judiciary’s Ho’ohiki system, hoohiki2.courts.state.hi.us/jud/Hoohiki /main.htm. Small-claims records must be located using computer terminals at District Court. Certain kinds of traffic information also are available online now free of charge at https://jimspss1.courts.state.hi.us/court/ck_ public_qry_cpty.cp_personcase_setup_idx.

STATE CIRCUIT COURT

What’s in it: Records of civil lawsuits, felony criminal cases, divorce proceedings, mechanic’s liens, Family Court domestic abuse criminal cases, probate cases.

Who can get it: General public. Certain Family Court cases involving minors are restricted to authorized family members. Other records may be sealed by judge’s order.

Where to get it: O’ahu Circuit Court building, 777 Punchbowl St.; Maui Circuit Court, 2145 Main St., Wailuku; Hawai’i Circuit Court, 75 Aupuni St., Hilo; Kaua’i Circuit Court, 3970 Ka’ana St., Lihu’e.

What you need: A valid ID.

What it costs: Self-service copying machine, 15 cents per page; official certified copies, $1 per page.

Contact number: O’ahu, 539-4767; Maui, (808) 244-2823 or (808) 244-2969; Big Island, (808) 961-7440; Kaua’i, (808) 482-2300.

Available online? Partially. Index of each case’s records, including scheduled hearing dates, is available via state judiciary’s Ho’ohiki site, hoohiki2.courts.state.hi.us/jud/Hoohiki /main.htm. Actual records must be viewed in person.

STATE SUPREME COURT

What’s in it: Files of lower court cases now on appeal to the Supreme Court.

Who can get it: General public.

Where to get it: Hawai’i Supreme Court, 417 S. King St.

What you need: Supreme Court case number, which is different from the lower court case number. Obtain number from lower court case files on Ho’ohiki Web site, hoohi ki2.courts.state.hi.us/jud/Hoohiki/main.htm.

What it costs: Copying fees, $1 for the first page, 50 cents per page thereafter.

Contact number: 539-4919.

Available online? Partially. Appellate decisions are available at www.courts.state.hi.us/. Documents filed in pending appeals are available only by requesting them in person.

FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT

What’s in it: Civil, criminal case files.

Who can get it: General public.

Where to get it: Prince Kuhio Federal Building, 300 Ala Moana.

What you need: A valid picture ID to enter the courthouse. Look up cases by number or name of party on computer terminal in court clerk’s office.

What it costs: Copying fees, 50 cents for first page; 25 cents each additional page.

Contact number: 541-1300.

Available online? Yes, through the PACER system at www.pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/. Users must register and be assigned a password. Download fee of 8 cents per page, capped at a maximum of $2.40 per document. Complete images of most documents filed since January. Users can gain access to U.S. District, Appellate and Bankruptcy Court records nationwide. Hawai’i District Court posts docket sheets only on PACER. Additional records/information available at www.hid .uscourts.gov/.

FEDERAL BANKRUPTCY COURT

What’s in it: Bankruptcy case files.

Who can get it: General public.

Where to get it: Bankruptcy Court, 1132 Bishop St., Suite 250L. Look up cases on computer terminals at court clerk’s office. Cases can be searched by name of individual or business, or by case number.

What you need: A valid ID.

What it costs: Copying fees, 10 cents per page.

Contact number: 522-8100.

Available online? Yes, through the PACER system (see Federal District Court above), www.pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/. Complete images of most Hawai’i Bankruptcy Court documents available. Additional records/information available at www.hib.uscourts.gov/.

SAFETY/POLICE

MOTOR VEHICLE COLLISION REPORTS

What’s in it: Police reports with names, addresses for everyone involved and a brief collision description and diagram. If the accident is serious enough to prompt a criminal investigation, you also will get the face page of that report. Collision reports are available at the main police station on each island.

Who can get it: Anyone involved in the accident.

Where to get it: Any police station and sometimes at a substation.

What you need: A valid ID.

What it costs: First page, 25 cents to $1; each additional page, 10 cents to 25 cents

Contact number: O’ahu, 529-3271; Big Island, (808) 961-0232 or 2233; Maui, (808) 244-6345; Kaua’i, (808) 241-1661.

Available online: No.

ARREST LOGS

What’s in it: A person’s name, age and address and offense the person is suspected of committing are listed on a daily public log.

Who can get it: General public.

Where to get it: At the station where a person was arrested and the records division of the county’s main police station.

What you need: N/A

What it costs: Free to view, but no photocopying is allowed.

Contact number: O’ahu, 529-3271; Big Island, (808) 961-8112; Maui, (808) 244-6350; Kaua’i, (808) 241-1660.

Available online? No.

POLICE REPORTS

What’s in it: For closed cases, the entire investigation, including witness statements, is included, but in most counties, all names are blacked out.

Who can get it: General public, but only after a case is closed. An open case requires a subpoena.

Where to get it: At your county’s main police station.

What you need: A valid ID.

What it costs: First page can cost 25 cents to $1; each additional page, 10 cents to 25 cents.

Contact number: O’ahu, 529-3271; Big Island, (808) 961-2233; Maui, (808) 244-6350; Kaua’i, (808) 241-1661.

Available online? No.

SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY

What’s in it: Names, photographs, street addresses of certain convicted sex offenders.

Who can get it: General public.

Where to get it: Hawai’i Criminal Justice Data Center Web site.

What you need: Internet access.

What it costs: No charge.

Available online? Yes, at sexoffenders .ehawaii.gov/.

TRAFFIC ABSTRACT REPORTS

What’s in it: Traffic-related allegations and convictions of all moving citations covered by Hawai’i state law.

Who can get it: General public.

Where to get it: Most District Courts (see above).

What you need: Valid ID of yourself and as much information as possible about the driver you are looking up - name, Social Security number, date of birth , address.

What it costs: $7.

Honolulu Contact number: 538-5500.

Available online? Yes, at www.courts.state .hi.us, click on search and then search court records, then search court records again and finally JIMS CourtConnect.

VICTIM VERIFICATION LETTERS

What’s in it: Your name and address, and a brief description of the crime, including date, time and location.

Who can get it: Crime victims.

Where to get it: Any police station and sometimes at a substation.

What you need: A valid ID.

What it costs: First page, 25 cents to $1; each additional page, 10 cents to 25 cents.

Contact number: O’ahu, 529-3271; Big Island, (808) 961-2233; Maui County, (808) 244-6350; Kaua’i, (808) 241-1660.

Available online? No.

CRIMINAL CONVICTION RECORDS

What’s in it: State felony and misdemeanor criminal conviction records.

Who can get it: General public.

Where to get it: Hawai’i Criminal Justice Data Center, 465 S. King St., Room 101; any main police station and Neighbor Island District Courts, and www.ecrim.ehawaii.gov.

What you need: Name, birth date, Social Security number of individual to be researched.

What it costs: Each location has a public access computer for viewing the records, but a printout will cost you $10 to $15.

Contact number: Data Center, 587-3100. Also, the records sections of local police departments: O’ahu, 529-3271; Big Island, (808) 961-2233; Maui, (808) 244-6350; Kaua’i, (808) 241-1661.

Available online? In some cases after an account has been established with the Hawai’i Criminal Justice Center.

VITAL RECORDS

BIRTH CERTIFICATES

What’s in it: Name, date, time and location of birth . Mother’s maiden name. Race of each parent.

Who can get it: Individuals who have a direct and tangible interest in the record.

Where to get it: Apply in person at the Health Department, 1250 Punchbowl St., Room 103, 7:45 a.m.-2:30 p.m., or mail request to State Department of Health, Office of Health Status Monitoring, Issuance/Vital Statistics Section, P.O. Box 3378, Honolulu, HI 96801. Application forms and other information are available at www.hawaii.gov/health/vi tal-records/vital-records/vital_records.html.

What you need: Provide personal information to prove your connection to the individual named in the certificate .

What it costs: $10 for the first copy; $4 for each additional copy.

Available online? You can request information at www.hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vi tal-records/vital_records.html.

DEATH CERTIFICATES

What’s in it: Vital statistics, including name, date and place of birth , occupation, parents’ names and official cause of death .

Who can get it: Individuals who have a direct and tangible interest in the record.

Where to get it: Apply in person at the Health Department, 1250 Punchbowl St., Room 103, 7:45 a.m.-2:30 p.m., or mail request to State Department of Health, Office of Health Status Monitoring, Issuance/Vital Statistics Section, P.O. Box 3378, Honolulu, HI 96801. Application forms and other information are available at www.hawaii.gov/health/vi tal-records/vital-records/vital_records.html.

What you need: Provide personal information to prove your connection to the individual named in the certificate .

What it costs: $10 for the first copy; $4 for each additional copy.

Available online? You can request information at www.hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vi tal-records/vital_records.html.

DIVORCE CERTIFICATES

What’s in it: Vital statistics, including names of husband and wife involved, their birth dates, place of marriage, number of children and name changes to be made after divorce .

Who can get it: Individuals who have a direct and tangible interest in the record.

Where to get it: Apply in person at the Health Department, 1250 Punchbowl St., Room 103, 7:45 a.m.-2:30 p.m., or mail request to State Department of Health, Office of Health Status Monitoring, Issuance/Vital Statistics Section, P.O. Box 3378, Honolulu, HI 96801. Application forms and other information are available at www.hawaii.gov/health/vi tal-records/vital-records/vital_records.html.

What you need: Provide personal information to prove your connection to the individual named in the certificate .

What it costs: $10 for the first copy; $4 for each additional copy.

Available online? No. But detailed information is available at www.hawaii.gov/health/vi tal-records/vital-records/vital_records.html.

MARRIAGE CERTIFICATES

What’s in it: Names of bride and groom, dates and places of birth , date and location of marriage.

Who can get it: Individuals who have a direct and tangible interest in the record.

Where to get it: Apply in person at the Health Department, 1250 Punchbowl St., Room 103, 7:45 a.m.-2:30 p.m., or mail request to State Department of Health, Office of Health Status Monitoring, Issuance/Vital Statistics Section, P.O. Box 3378, Honolulu, HI 96801. Application forms and other information are available at www.hawaii.gov/health/vi tal-records/vital-records/vital_records.html.

What you need: Provide personal information to prove your connection to the individual named in the certificate .

What it costs: $10 for the first copy; $4 for each additional copy.

Available online? No. But detailed information is available at www.hawaii.gov/health/vital -records/vital-records/vital_records.html.

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108 posted on 04/12/2011 2:24:07 PM PDT by maggief
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To: SgtHooper

Thats a good point, however, it is harder to erase those emails than you might think. I am not gonna say much about that. I don’t want to give anyone any ideas...


109 posted on 04/12/2011 2:28:48 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: edcoil

I’m updating my passport and there are new requirements:

New U.S. Birth Certificate Requirement

Beginning April 1, 2011, the U.S. Department of State will require the full names of the applicant’s parent(s) to be listed on all certified birth certificates to be considered as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for all passport applicants, regardless of age. Certified birth certificates missing this information will not be acceptable as evidence of citizenship. This will not affect applications already in-process that have been submitted or accepted before the effective date.

For more information, see 22 CFR 51.42(a).

To obtain a new birth certificate, see the CDC.

In addition to this requirement, certified copies of birth certificates must also include the following information to be considered acceptable primary evidence of U.S. citizenship:

Full name of the applicant
Date of birth
Place of birth
Raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal of issuing authority
Registrar’s signature
The date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office (must be within one year)

If you have a birth certificate that does not meet these requirements, please see Secondary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_5401.html


110 posted on 04/12/2011 2:30:56 PM PDT by luckybogey
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To: Smokeyblue

This is surreal if true. I think commiecrats will stoop to anything to win their goal.


111 posted on 04/12/2011 2:36:35 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: STARWISE; LucyT

ps. Sunshine Week guides to public info ceased last published 3/16/08, per my searches.

SUNSHINE WEEK / A GUIDE TO GETTING PUBLIC INFORMATION
Honolulu Advertiser, The (HI) - March 16, 2008
Length: 2938 words (Estimated printed pages: 12)
THE COURTS STATE DISTRICT COURT What’s in it: Traffic cases, misdemeanor criminal cases, Small Claims Court cases, temporary restraining orders. Who can get it: General public. Certain information is available only to persons involved; other records are sealed by court order. Where to get it: Main District Courts in each county. Rural District Courts have limited public information available. What you need: Requesters must have specific...

SUNSHINE WEEK | A GUIDE TO GETTING PUBLIC INFORMATION
Honolulu Advertiser, The (HI) - March 14, 2007
Length: 2910 words (Estimated printed pages: 12)
THE COURTS STATE DISTRICT COURT What’s in it: Traffic cases, misdemeanor criminal cases, Small Claims Court cases, temporary restraining orders. Who can get it: General public. Certain information is available only to persons involved; other records are sealed by court order. Where to get it: Main District Courts in each county. Rural District Courts have limited public information available. What you need: Requesters must have specific...

SUNSHINE WEEK | A GUIDE TO GETTING PUBLIC INFORMATION
Honolulu Advertiser, The (HI) - March 12, 2006
Length: 2843 words (Estimated printed pages: 12)
THE COURTS STATE DISTRICT COURT What’s in it: Traffic cases, misdemeanor criminal cases, Small Claims Court cases, temporary restraining orders Who can get it: General public. Certain information is available only to persons involved; other records are sealed by court order. Where to get it: Main District Courts in each county. Rural District Courts have limited public information available. What you need: Requesters must have specific identifying...

SUNSHINE WEEK | A GUIDE TO GETTING PUBLIC INFORMATION
Honolulu Advertiser, The (HI) - March 13, 2005
Length: 2826 words (Estimated printed pages: 12)
STATE DISTRICT What’s in it: Traffic cases, misdemeanor criminal cases, Small Claims Court cases, temporary restraining orders. Who can get it: General public. Certain information available only to persons involved; other records sealed by court order. Where to get it: Main District Courts in each county. Rural District Courts have very limited pubic information available. What you need: Requesters must have specific identifying information such as the...


112 posted on 04/12/2011 2:38:52 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Smokeyblue

Trump has people investigating this in Hawaii

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2701040/posts

and all of a sudden no long form needed?


113 posted on 04/12/2011 2:41:43 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Smokeyblue

I’m in and out today (mostly out) so I haven’t read what’s been posted so far, but they can’t change the Administrative Rules without an elaborate process including public hearings that are publicized in newspapers ahead of time, etc. The Administrative Rules say that a person can’t get the confidential medical portion of the “standard birth certificate” (long-form, as opposed to the COLB which is technically called an “abbreviated birth certificate”) UNLESS THEY SPECIFICALLY REQUEST IT.

To make this change to say they won’t release certified copies of their standard birth certificates AT ALL, they would have to go through the legal process to amend the Administrative Rules.

The HDOH has repeatedly tried to change Administrative Rules without using the proper procedure. When they tried to charge $7 for each individual piece of index data I contacted the Ombudsman’s Office or OIP (can’t remember which one) to say that they had not followed proper procedures to change that - since Hawaii law says that an increase in price over a certain percentage from the previous price must be done by going through the legal rule change process. The HDOH ended up having to undo that $7/item fee.

This is just one more example of the HDOH breaking the laws and rules to cover for Obama. These people have declared outright war on the law-abiding people, the legislature, and the rule of law.

We need to LOUDLY PROTEST, asking to see when they notified the public of a hearing, when the hearing was conducted, and when the governor signed to say when the start date for the rule change would be. Because the HDOH Administrative Rules directly provide for an applicant to receive EVEN THE CONFIDENTIAL MEDICAL PORTION OF THE STANDARD BIRTH CERTIFICATE, and because UIPA requires that if a record CAN be released it MUST be released, this change would have to involve the legal rule change procedure. Otherwise the rule change is not in effect.


114 posted on 04/12/2011 2:45:59 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

You need to check this out.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2703602/posts?page=1


115 posted on 04/12/2011 2:49:08 PM PDT by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

This is gaining more and more trappings of a conspiracy and cover up.


And to imagine the Watergate Conspiracy was nothing more than a cover up over a 2-bit burglary of a political opponents office.


116 posted on 04/12/2011 2:51:20 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: butterdezillion

Important Difference Between a Certificate - vs. Certification - of Live Birth

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/04/important_difference_between_a.html


117 posted on 04/12/2011 2:59:11 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Smokeyblue

I’m not sure that short form birth certificate would be adequate to get a US passport or even a driver’s license under the new federal standards.


118 posted on 04/12/2011 3:01:48 PM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: InterceptPoint

Not to worry. I am confident Mr. Trump already pegged some of the best lawyers to be had before tackling the issue. They’re just waiting to start their timers on his go-ahead.

Thank you, Mr. Trump.


119 posted on 04/12/2011 3:11:25 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (HE must increase)
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To: Smokeyblue
It is truly fascinating how far the Hawaiian government representatives will go to protect Obama's LIES.

May they all rot in hell for this.

120 posted on 04/12/2011 3:15:05 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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