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Jerry Brown: California, Country Facing ‘Regime Crisis’ Similar To The Civil War
CBS LosAngeles ^ | April 10, 2011 | losangeles.cbslocal.com/Dave Bryan

Posted on 04/11/2011 4:02:15 PM PDT by dragnet2

LOS ANGELES (CBS) — While Washington averted a government shutdown this week, California Governor Jerry Brown continues with his budget battles.

The governor may feel like he’s in a recurring nightmare these days. Everywhere he turns with a proposed budget fix it gets shot down.

“If we don’t get taxes, if we don’t get cuts, we’re gonna have a hard time balancing the budget,” Brown said. “Many of the Republicans told me, ‘We’re not taxing and we’re not cutting. It’s your job — you’re the governor.’”

But Republicans who show up to protest at many of the governor’s events these days say it’s Brown who’s not living up to his words.

“Fix it, Governor Brown, and I’ll be the first person that would be more than happy to give you money,” said Robert Ledbetter, who was protesting outside one of Brown’s events.

California Republican Party Vice Chair Steven Baric says Brown is not showing he’s much of a leader.

“He promised he would show true leadership and he’s failing to do that. And if he wants to show true leadership let’s have true pension reform,” Baric said.

this weekend, CBS 2/KCAL 9 political reporter Dave Bryan asked Governor Brown about the criticisms:

DB: Many of the Republicans I talk to say that they’re not convinced that you’re serious about pension reform and about cutting the slack in government, cutting the bureaucracy down. They feel that you haven’t put forward, for example, a meaningful pension reform plan because of your connection to the unions.

JB: They have to say that to give cover to their position, which is ‘No’. Their position is ‘No, we’re not going to help you. We’re not going to do anything. Well, that’s unacceptable. I did propose 12 points of pension reform.

The governor tells Dave he believes the country hasn’t been this divided since the Civil War.

This week Brown has been using Civil War metaphors at his public events to describe the deep divisions in California, and the entire country for that matter, preaching with the passion of a born-again that the country is dangerously polarized.

“We are at a point of civil discord, and I would not minimize the risk to our country and to our state. It is not trivial. I’ve been around a long time, I’m a student of history, I’m a student of contemporary politics. We are facing what I would call a ‘regime crisis.’ The legitimacy of our very democratic institutions are in question,” he said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: brown; california; demagog; demagogue; divisive; moonbeam
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To: dragnet2

More than likely his ‘fix’ is big taxes and small cuts.


21 posted on 04/11/2011 4:27:40 PM PDT by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: La Lydia

Going, going, going Galt.


22 posted on 04/11/2011 4:27:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: kinghorse
He’s setting the stage for government to put it’s boot on our necks

Too late my friend.

23 posted on 04/11/2011 4:27:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

In the California of today it is less like the Civil War, more like the Mexican–American War of 1846 to 1848.

The only question: Which side is Governor Moonbeam on?


24 posted on 04/11/2011 4:28:01 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: Iron Munro

That’s one aspect, but the glaring factor here is the government not only enables all that but aids and abets it.


25 posted on 04/11/2011 4:30:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2; Noumenon; nathanbedford
Brown is exactly correct.

The only thing between us and a full blown regime crisis is an alternative to USG.

The Constitution has been overthrown. The revolution is betrayed.

And, for the GOP and the Democrats, the attitude is, "So? There's not a damn thing you can do about it".

That is, for the present, unfortunately true. But nature abhors a vacuum.

Power is lying on the ground, waiting for someone to pick it up.

Sooner or later, someone will.

26 posted on 04/11/2011 4:31:25 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: dragnet2

The people against the government.


27 posted on 04/11/2011 4:32:47 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Jim Noble
Brown is exactly correct.

Yup.

28 posted on 04/11/2011 4:33:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Hey Jerry wanted the job (and he can’t say he didn’t know what that job was like). He got what he wanted.


29 posted on 04/11/2011 4:33:38 PM PDT by rod1
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To: dragnet2

Hey Jerry wanted the job (and he can’t say he didn’t know what that job was like). He got what he wanted.


30 posted on 04/11/2011 4:33:46 PM PDT by rod1
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To: Thane_Banquo

“Yes, just like 150 years ago, America is half slave (to socialism) and half free. And the slave half wants to run roughshod over the Constitution and the rule of law in order to further its goal of enslaving everyone.”

Take a map of the US red and blue states. Take a map of the civil war. Notice anything? Then think REAL hard about what you just wrote. Then consider the issue of State’s Rights. Just be a little curious, that’s all.


31 posted on 04/11/2011 4:34:41 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Money...can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them." - Rand)
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To: forgotten man
The democrats made this bed, now they can sleep in it.

For those capable of critical thought, that no longer works and hasn't for many years.

32 posted on 04/11/2011 4:37:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Brown you started this crap with public sector unions...reap what you sowed...


33 posted on 04/11/2011 4:38:04 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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RUN JERRY RUN!
34 posted on 04/11/2011 4:38:15 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: Jim Noble
Power is lying on the ground, waiting for someone to pick it up.

Sooner or later, someone will.

Yes. Yes, they will. An unflinching glance over the history of the last 200 years suggests that it won't bode well for any of us. The will to power - and the desire to harm others without consequence - trumps all.

35 posted on 04/11/2011 4:41:25 PM PDT by Noumenon ("How do we know when the Government is like that guy with the van and the handcuffs?" --Henry Bowman)
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To: dragnet2

>The legitimacy of our very democratic institutions are in question,” he said.

Considering that America is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy I’d say he is finally getting a clue.

Our founders never intended for our government to be milking and bilking the taxpayers for the sole purpose of
creating an unmaintainable number of cushy government jobs.

Let’s just hope the military stays with American ideals and you pension thieves surrender to American terms rather than lose the hard way.


36 posted on 04/11/2011 4:42:03 PM PDT by soycd
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To: rolling_stone
Brown you started this crap with public sector unions...reap what you sowed..

Uh no he didn't.

I believe that started in the 1950s, in New York City.

37 posted on 04/11/2011 4:43:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dynachrome

Trust me - things will manifestly NOT turn around quickly. There are consequences - dreadful ones - to all that has been done in the name of ‘progressivism’.

It’s a butchers bill, payable in blood.


38 posted on 04/11/2011 4:44:27 PM PDT by Noumenon ("How do we know when the Government is like that guy with the van and the handcuffs?" --Henry Bowman)
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To: dragnet2; All

39 posted on 04/11/2011 4:44:46 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: dragnet2

uh California is the state we (I) was talking about 1970;s then shools in CA went from top five to bottom five, union teachers...


40 posted on 04/11/2011 4:46:13 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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