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To: Thane_Banquo

“Yes, just like 150 years ago, America is half slave (to socialism) and half free. And the slave half wants to run roughshod over the Constitution and the rule of law in order to further its goal of enslaving everyone.”

Take a map of the US red and blue states. Take a map of the civil war. Notice anything? Then think REAL hard about what you just wrote. Then consider the issue of State’s Rights. Just be a little curious, that’s all.


31 posted on 04/11/2011 4:34:41 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Money...can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them." - Rand)
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To: jessduntno
Consider this comment from Victor Davis Hanson's latest column, The Razor'sEdge:

California is finished. Whites have been ethnically cleansed out of California. The WSJ reports that Whites went from 80% in 1960 to 40% today. Latinos are now 38%, poised to become majority.

Let us be clear what will happen. Dr. Hanson you will be taxed out of your property. As my family will be out of mine. Latinos don’t own much property. They are poor, having according the US Census Bureau a $16K gap in median household income, and much larger households (twice the size of Whites). Latinos also depend on the Welfare state. Latino girls have kids starting at age 16, routinely, while Whites have kids, mostly only when they can afford them. I have personally observed a Latino family ask for donations from the Charity I do some volunteer work for, in order to fund College expenses for the younger son (the older was in the program I did some work for). They drove up in the latest model Toyota Camry. Its a nicer car than the ten year old one I drive.

Whites are the functional minority in the state of California, and soon the US. We are basically Jews in pre-WWI Germany. Or Dreyfuss era France, whatever you prefer. Entirely predictable, Jerry Brown will follow the people who elected him. And push confiscatory property taxes on ordinary people, to finalize the ethnic cleansing of Whites in California. Then of course heavy taxes on the wealthiest will proceed.

But if I were you, I’d prepare for those confiscatory taxes on your property. You are stuck, unlike a renting Silicon Valley executive, or Hollywood mogul also renting. Therefore you are the easiest tax target. As predictable as the calender — California Latinos want the expansive Welfare state the supports their huge family formation, at the expense of White voters. The numbers have moved their way and its all over but the shouting.

Demography is destiny. California is over, its nothing but Northern Mexico now, and won’t change any time the next century. For Whites, it is time to face the facts and emulate powerful role models: Theodore Herzl, David Ben-Gurion, Moshe Dayan, and Golda Meir. Yes this is distressing. But this is the cost of diversity. Lets be honest — Whites as a minority can only expect the kind of treatment Jews have historically found in Europe. That is just human nature. California belongs to Mexico now, as surely as Gaza does to Palestinians.

Unpleasant, uncomfortable and decidedly unpalatable truths, to be sure, but truths nonetheless. We don't have to like it. Any of it. But we will have to deal with it. Demography is indeed destiny, - Mark Steyn has also said as much in America Alone. Those of us who live outside what will become urban hell-zones will have some hard, hard choices to make regarding the flood of hungry and desperate refugees, ravagers and killers who will be coming our way once the music stops.

Who will you feed? And at what cost?
Who will you take in? And at what cost?
And who will you kill because you must?

50 posted on 04/11/2011 4:54:54 PM PDT by Noumenon ("How do we know when the Government is like that guy with the van and the handcuffs?" --Henry Bowman)
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To: jessduntno

If the Civil War was about states’ rights, why did the south rebuff Lincoln’s offer of a Constitutional amendment that would protect slavery in slave states? Up to that point, the slave-holding states had gotten almost everything they wanted from federal policy (Dredd Scott, Fugitive Slave Act, etc). Heck, Jeff Davis’s own VP said the Confederacy exists to permanently maintain the legal distinction between white and balck, and to defend the institution of slavery. Jeff Davis’ answer to the Emancipation Proclamation was to declare that all free blacks in the South and in northern areas conquered by the grays would now become permanent slaves.

Southern states had enacted censorship laws against abolition writings, and even included conscription of free white men against their will to form posses to search for escaped slaves. The Fugitive Slave Act made this federal policy for all states, slave and free, an obvious violation of states’ rights that no Confederate ever complained about. Dredd Scott, made by a southern SC Chief Justice, continued the South’s assault on federalism.

The Southern cause was never about freedom, either for blacks or whites. It was always about protecting the interests of a small, wealthy, planter aristocracy to the detriment of everyone else. That’s why WV split off from Virginia.

What has happened now is that the South lived under the yoke of Democrat tyranny and oppression for 150 years, and then finally woke up to what was going on and left the Democrats.


87 posted on 04/11/2011 9:44:38 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: jessduntno; LS

For a fact-based conservative understanding of the South’s anti-freedom and even anti “states’ rights” politics prior to the Civil War, might I suggest A Patriot’s History of the United States by FR’s resident history whiz Larry Schweikart?


88 posted on 04/11/2011 9:52:52 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: jessduntno; LS

For a fact-based conservative understanding of the South’s anti-freedom and even anti “states’ rights” politics prior to the Civil War, might I suggest A Patriot’s History of the United States by FR’s resident history whiz Larry Schweikart?


89 posted on 04/11/2011 9:53:05 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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